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    #1

    War merit with swords

    Hello Colleagues!
    I recently received this suspicious co called KVK cross. Can you please help me determine its originality.
    It weights 20 grams and the rest suspiciousness are on the photos.
    Thank you in advance, Sigla.
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    Last edited by sigla; 04-09-2019, 09:13 AM.
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    Additional photos.
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      #3
      On a second look I think it is a good Deschler marked cross.

      I just checked one I have and it is 18/19g.

      Wayne
      Last edited by bytown; 04-09-2019, 10:37 AM.

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        #4
        Looks to be a good Deschler to me as well. Although I can't say that I have seen this sort of hinge block on a KVK1 by this maker.

        Chet
        Zinc stinks!

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          #5
          Checking Maerz/Stimson book a lot of the details on this cross jive with the examples in the book. Dimples in Oak Leaves, tears in the corners of the cross arms. Lines in the sword handles wrap around the edges.

          Couple of things don't.

          Weight of with swords is given at 24.2g

          The type of hinge block is not shown.

          Wayne

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            #6
            Wayne,
            I read the same thing as well and agree. A good straight on view of the obverse is needed as the pebbling and tears are not readily apparent in the pics supplied.

            Chet
            Zinc stinks!

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              #7
              It's a classic Deschler horde KVKIX … I have one identical with it's wrappings.

              Ian

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                #8
                Ian,
                I'm curious as I've never seen this hinge block on any of the hoard examples. Does your example have this type of hinge block?

                Chet
                Zinc stinks!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chet Sowersby View Post
                  Ian,
                  I'm curious as I've never seen this hinge block on any of the hoard examples. Does your example have this type of hinge block?

                  Chet
                  Evening Chet, I will have to take a look when I get a chance … it won't be tonight unfortunately. From memory it's identical.

                  Ian

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                    #10
                    The maker marked one I have in my collection matches what appears in the book.

                    With the exception of one thing............the weight............mine is 19g.

                    Wayne

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                      #11
                      Sorry for not responding so quickly, missing some time.
                      So here is some more visual details on "eyes" , makers mark, hinge.
                      By the way non magnetic and diameter 48mm.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ian Hulley View Post
                        It's a classic Deschler horde KVKIX … I have one identical with it's wrappings.

                        Ian
                        Ian hello, can you please post yours Deschlers KVK ?

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                          #13
                          The cross at the start of this thread looks okay to me. The extruded block hinge is typical of these.

                          Here is one for comparison. This example weighs 23.3 grams.

                          Best regards,
                          Tom
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                          Mihi libertas necessest!

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                            Mihi libertas necessest!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sigla View Post
                              Ian hello, can you please post your Deschler KVK ?
                              Good evening, pics taken. I will post them in the morning.

                              Originally posted by Tom Yanacek View Post
                              Here is one for comparison. This example weighs 23.3 grams.
                              This one weighs in at 22.40g

                              Cheers, Ian.

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