War merit with swords

[sigla]

Hello Colleagues!
I recently received this suspicious co called KVK cross. Can you please help me determine its originality.
It weights 20 grams and the rest suspiciousness are on the photos.
Thank you in advance, Sigla.

[sigla]

Additional photos.

[bytown]

On a second look I think it is a good Deschler marked cross.

I just checked one I have and it is 18/19g.

Wayne

[Chet Sowersby]

Looks to be a good Deschler to me as well. Although I can't say that I have seen this sort of hinge block on a KVK1 by this maker.

Chet

[bytown]

Checking Maerz/Stimson book a lot of the details on this cross jive with the examples in the book. Dimples in Oak Leaves, tears in the corners of the cross arms. Lines in the sword handles wrap around the edges.

Couple of things don't.

Weight of with swords is given at 24.2g

The type of hinge block is not shown.

Wayne

[Chet Sowersby]

Wayne,
I read the same thing as well and agree. A good straight on view of the obverse is needed as the pebbling and tears are not readily apparent in the pics supplied.

Chet

[Ian Hulley]

It's a classic Deschler horde KVKIX … I have one identical with it's wrappings.

Ian

[Chet Sowersby]

Ian,
I'm curious as I've never seen this hinge block on any of the hoard examples. Does your example have this type of hinge block?

Chet

[Ian Hulley]

Ian,
I'm curious as I've never seen this hinge block on any of the hoard examples. Does your example have this type of hinge block?

Chet

Evening Chet, I will have to take a look when I get a chance … it won't be tonight unfortunately. From memory it's identical.

Ian

[bytown]

The maker marked one I have in my collection matches what appears in the book.

With the exception of one thing............the weight............mine is 19g.

Wayne

[sigla]

Sorry for not responding so quickly, missing some time.
So here is some more visual details on "eyes" , makers mark, hinge.
By the way non magnetic and diameter 48mm.

[sigla]

It's a classic Deschler horde KVKIX … I have one identical with it's wrappings.

Ian

Ian hello, can you please post yours Deschlers KVK ?

[Tom Yanacek]

The cross at the start of this thread looks okay to me. The extruded block hinge is typical of these.

Here is one for comparison. This example weighs 23.3 grams.

Best regards,
Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

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[Ian Hulley]

Ian hello, can you please post your Deschler KVK ?

Good evening, pics taken. I will post them in the morning.

Here is one for comparison. This example weighs 23.3 grams.

This one weighs in at 22.40g

Cheers, Ian.