Fakes or not

[AndyC]

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[AndyC]

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[Ian Hulley]

Oh dear

Can't comment on the SS belt buckle but everything else is fake.

Sorry, Ian.

[Panther11]

Hello Ian

Could you please just point out the things that signal to you that these are fakes. This is for me in an effort to have better education when it comes to buying German SS items. Most especially the Helmet cover, I have had a lot of people look at this and reassure me of its authenticity. I remember one particular "specialist" wanting to buy this from me for somerhing approaching 600 pounds, and yes by the sound of things I should have taken the money, but I would never do that knowingly

Oh dear

Can't comment on the SS belt buckle but everything else is fake.

Sorry, Ian.

[Panther11]

Thank you for this, when payday swings around I will join up Cheers

Lastly, at the bottom of the Authorize.net page, type in the security code and then left click the 'pay now' button. You will then be an association member and can post pictures to the forum using our server.

[Panther11]

Hi John Thanks very much for this, would it be possible to get the real experts address or email Cheers from hot and sweaty Australia

Neither are German- one is a true expert - the only one I would ever trust - and the other is a rabbit

[Ian Hulley]

Hello Ian

Could you please just point out the things that signal to you that these are fakes.

Both the tuxedo bars are ugly fakes, (try a search of the forum for SS Tuxedo Bar) the skull buckle is a fantasy item and the rivets and rockers on the helmet cover are an immediate red flag.

As I said before I cannot comment on the standard SS buckle.

Hope this helps, Ian.

[John_B]

Both the tuxedo bars are ugly fakes, (try a search of the forum for SS Tuxedo Bar) the skull buckle is a fantasy item and the rivets and rockers on the helmet cover are an immediate red flag.

As I said before I cannot comment on the standard SS buckle.

Hope this helps, Ian.

As you say Ian - products of the 4th Reich probably originating from Eastern Europe flooding the market on unsuspecting poor souls - however it is difficult to judge the SS buckle on a frontal picture alone - but looking at everything else............... I would steer clear of it all. Junk is too kind a word

Hi John Thanks very much for this, would it be possible to get the real experts address or email Cheers from hot and sweaty Australia

Not possible to do I'm afraid -

[Ian Hulley]

would it be possible to get the real experts address or email

I doesn't quite work like that

If you post clear photos of items BEFORE you buy them then an experienced collector may choose to help you.

There is no entitlement to immediate, free access to 'an expert' which so many younger people seem to take for granted these days. My advice is to study the items you wish to buy and empower yourself ... it's what so many of us have had to do over the years.

Ian

[Panther11]

Hi Ian Well thanks for that, depressing as it is at least I know now. I think I will give the Medals etc. a wide berth from now on. I will just stick to German ammunition from now on, also German radio sets. Cheers mate

Both the tuxedo bars are ugly fakes, (try a search of the forum for SS Tuxedo Bar) the skull buckle is a fantasy item and the rivets and rockers on the helmet cover are an immediate red flag.

As I said before I cannot comment on the standard SS buckle.

Hope this helps, Ian.

[SScollector]

Surprisingly, the standard SS buckle, (on the left side), appears to be an original early Nickel buckle, imo.

Chris

[Panther11]

Hi Ian
Well at least the SS buckle seems to be the real thing, will need to do more research on it, but it has received one cautious thumbs up perhaps. I would like to thank you for your frank honest words, better to get straight forward advice.
Have a great Christmas, and a safe New Year, although Political Correctness says I must say Happy Holidays. Whatever just be safe. Iain




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QUOTE=Ian Hulley;8009454]Both the tuxedo bars are ugly fakes, (try a search of the forum for SS Tuxedo Bar) the skull buckle is a fantasy item and the rivets and rockers on the helmet cover are an immediate red flag.

As I said before I cannot comment on the standard SS buckle.

Hope this helps, Ian.[/QUOTE]

[Ian Hulley]

Have a great Christmas, and a safe New Year, although Political Correctness says I must say Happy Holidays. Whatever just be safe. Iain

Yeah, Happy Christmas to you and yours too mate.

Ian

[SScollector]

Please show a picture of the back side of the buckle, and I will most likely be able to confirm if the buckle is original or not, for sure. Of course, the buckle forum would give you more opinions from several collectors, but these early buckles are not difficult to judge, imo, (with both sides visible). Looking forward to seeing the rest.

Chris