I believe those crown and sword devices with red enamel in the crown were reserved to represent the Prussian Red Eagle Order with Swords and Crown, not the Hohenzollern House Order.
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The only thing that would make sense in the first position on this bar would be the 1914 EK2. Looking at the reverse, it looks to me like there are remnants of the 1914 EK2 ribbon. Maybe the EK2 ribbon was badly damaged (like the 1939 KVK2 and Hohenzollern House Order ribbons) and someone went and glued that hokey rainbow colored ribbon over the spot where the 1914 EK2 ribbon once was? If this is the case, the order of precedence is completely correct as the 1939 KVK would be placed between the 1914 EK2 and the Prussian Hohenzollern House Order. The only thing that would not seem right would be the KVK2 w/o swords device. The long service ribbons indicate this guy was on active duty in the Wehrmacht. That being the case, he would have been awarded the KVK2X, even if only an administrative official far removed from the front lines.
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Thanks Tom.Originally posted by Tom Yanacek View PostI agree, Pierce. Good point!
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Tom Based on the set-up, devices, pin and catch the whole thing is a deliberate fake.
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"I believe those crown and sword devices with red enamel in the crown were reserved to represent the Prussian Red Eagle Order with Swords and Crown, not the Hohenzollern House Order."
Pierce, that is most likely correct, but my response was directed to the suggestions that a crown/swords device is not to be expected on an IC ribbon and then followed by yet another suggestion that it could represent the Goldenes Militärverdienstkreuz. Given the facts that this ribbon bar is a put-together, this might seem like a rather useless discussion, but for the benefit of any newbe reading this I think it's worth mentioning.
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So would the 'Goldenes Militärverdienstkreuz' be
1) Gilt Crown and Swords
2) Crown and Swords
3) or nothing
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Originally posted by byterock View Post
The 'Goldenes Militärverdienstkreuz' had no official device but sometimes (very rarely) a miniature of the cross was added to the ribbon.
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Its been an interesting read will try and have a better look at the bar in the morning when i can get my hands on it, put together or pimped i wouldnt know, i thought the rear construction had a chance but someone with a bit of glue and some bits'n'bobs laying about can do what they want, Pete.
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So Nothing.Originally posted by luftkrieg View Post
Good to know. Thanks.
A very rare medal anyway only about 1700 awarded in WWIComment
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Tom , you were correct, ive just has a good look and originally the ribbon was as you mentioned an EK2 . Ive tried to pry the WMC off in case its glued on and it wont budge, IMHO it would seem to be a period ribbon bar thats been buggered withOriginally posted by Tom Yanacek View Post
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