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    Italo German medal & ribbon bar

    Hello guys,

    I don't see much problems on getting this Italo-German medal and ribbon bar but what are your thoughts?

    The medal, ribbon and ribbon bar all seem fine and genuine to me with raised maker marks below the crocodile and on the left side of the soldiers. I'm just not quite sure about the safety needle attached to the ribbon. Are there chances this was added later on? I haven't seen similar needles attached to these ribbons, neither on the forum or somewhere else.

    Like to hear from you,
    Cheers,
    Laurens
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        3 - pink marking was added from the seller
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            The safety pin was probably just someones way (maybe the Vet) of keeping the medal & ribbon bar together. Most likely done after the war I would think.
            Regards,
            Chris

            Always interested in buying Ribbon Bars or anything Ribbon Bar related!!

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              Originally posted by Chris Taylor
              The safety pin was probably just someones way (maybe the Vet) of keeping the medal & ribbon bar together. Most likely done after the war I would think.
              That was my initial thought also, but the safety pin is sewn unto the medal's ribbon....Was probably used to attach onto a uniform and then later stored away together....The medal looks good by the way.....Bodes

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                Thanks for the replies, guys
                I see nothing wrong with the medal, it was just the safety pin that made me place a new thread here.

                Cheers,
                Laurens

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                  Hi Laurens, medal looks fine . the safetuy pin thou looks fairly new and suspect it was done much later. Nothing to worry about as it is still a very nice looking award. All the best.

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                    This beauty came in this week and today, I took better photos. Here they are with the ribbon bar first up:








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                      Obverse and reverse:




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                        Detail and markings:
                        (The only minor point for me are the small scratches near the head of the soldier on the left. However, it's only by using a digital camera that these are enlarged and good visible, otherwise the medal looks very fine.)







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                          #13
                          Hopefully you like it as much as I do
                          For me, it's on to the next step, either a Afrika or Afrikakorps cufftitle

                          Cheers,
                          Laurens

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                            #14
                            Hi Lauren,nice looking award and good condition too, . I find these awards much underated, considering what these guys went through.All the best.

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                              I have an Afrika medal that also came with a safety pin. I have seen pictures of soldiers wearing these medals attached to their uniforms. Personally, I would put the pin back on the ribbon. IMO there is a good chance the award recipient used it to wear the medal.
                              HC

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