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    #1

    Help with ordensspange no. 1

    Hello all,

    I need some help with this 6-ordensspange:

    As I can see, the awards are the following:

    EK2 ww1 - Friederic-august-medaille (1905-18) - Ehrenkreuz frontkämpfer 1914-18 - Treue diest 40 jahre (de-nazified) - Ehrenkreuz DRK - ???...

    Can anyone help me with the last one..?..

    Best regards,

    Hans Kristian
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    #2
    Maybe the missing one would be this one..?..

    http://www.ordensammler.com/html/band_507.html

    One of the following..

    -Ritterkreuz 1. Klasse.
    - Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse.
    - Wissenschaft und Kunst, 1892 – 1902.
    - Wissenschaft und Kunst, 1902 – 1918.

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      #3
      Hello,

      The last ribbon is actually a foreign decoration and that is why it is placed last on the ribbon bar. IMO it is the Italian Commemorative Medal to the Royal House of Vittorio Emanuele III, or what the Italians call the Medaglia Ricordo della Real Casa Vittorio Emanuele III. This medal was awarded by Italy, primarily to foreigners, both civilian and military, for service rendered to the Italian Royal House. It makes sense seeing this ribbon on a German ribbon bar which also displays a German Red Cross Decoration. This guy was probably involved in some relief effort/aid to Italy for some emergency/natural disaster.

      The Medal pictured below is the Vittorio Emanuele III Medal for a Unified Italy. This is not the exact same medal as the Commemorative Medal to the Royal House, although it is very similar and the ribbons were identical.

      Best regards,
      Tom
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      Mihi libertas necessest!

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        #4
        Tom, thanks a lot for the input. Much appreciated..:!.

        Actually this falls very much in line with my purpose with this bar as I want to place it on a white summer tunic belonging to a KM medical officer, a geschwader-arzt. I am sure his seniority would fall in with this row of awards.

        Hans Kristian



        Originally posted by tyanacek View Post
        Hello,

        The last ribbon is actually a foreign decoration and that is why it is placed last on the ribbon bar. IMO it is the Italian Commemorative Medal to the Royal House of Vittorio Emanuele III, or what the Italians call the Medaglia Ricordo della Real Casa Vittorio Emanuele III. This medal was awarded by Italy, primarily to foreigners, both civilian and military, for service rendered to the Italian Royal House. It makes sense seeing this ribbon on a German ribbon bar which also displays a German Red Cross Decoration. This guy was probably involved in some relief effort/aid to Italy for some emergency/natural disaster.

        The Medal pictured below is the Vittorio Emanuele III Medal for a Unified Italy. This is not the exact same medal as the Commemorative Medal to the Royal House, although it is very similar and the ribbons were identical.

        Best regards,
        Tom

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          #5
          Here is a picture of the Commemorative Medal of the Royal House of Vittorio Emanuele III. (This one is in miniature form.) IMO, this would be the medal that your last ribbon represents.

          Best regards,
          Tom
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            #6
            Hello,

            Actually, I believe it must me this one on the pict.

            file:///C:/Users/Speciall%C3%A6ge%20HKL/Downloads/Azad%20Hind%3B%203rd%20Class%20with%20Swords%20194 2-1945%20with%20Packetof%20Issue%20%20%20eMedals.htm

            Azad Hind, 3. klasse - never heard of it before..??..and why should it be on this spange..??

            I stumbled over this one by coincidence, but it looks very much like the band on my spange.

            FOUND SOME PICS, AND THE FIRST ONE IS FROM THIS FORUM..!!!!

            Hans Kristian
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              #7
              ..so, maybe this spange is not completely original..?..although the Azad Hind was awarded from 1943...?..

              Any opinion on that..?..

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                #8
                Show us the backside of the bar.
                pseudo-expert

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                  #9
                  Hi Don,

                  Sure, here it is:
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                    #10
                    And a close-up of the metal-pieces on the front..
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                      #11
                      The ribbon is actually the Saxon red cross medal....which ties in with the social welfare 1937 type.

                      And another ribbon bar...
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                        #12
                        Alan, thanks a lot..!!..I did not notice this one, but you are completely right.

                        And how well it fits for a medical officer..



                        Originally posted by Alan_G View Post
                        The ribbon is actually the Saxon red cross medal....which ties in with the social welfare 1937 type.

                        And another ribbon bar...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Alan_G View Post
                          The ribbon is actually the Saxon red cross medal
                          Alan nailed it. I never saw this Saxon Red Cross Decoration before, but now I absolutely agree. Great to learn something new.

                          Thanks & best regards,
                          Tom
                          Mihi libertas necessest!

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                            #14
                            Thank you all for the help. Much appreciated.

                            Hans Kristian

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