Help on Medal Bar

[lsmilitaria]

Hi Guys, just got this in a few hours ago straight from the veterans family. This medal bar really caught my eye. As you can see there is a WWI iron cross ribbon with an WWII iron cross medal. Im assuming he won the iron cross in both wars. The last medal I can not seem to find any info on except it says "kings german legion". I was digging around in the box of goodies when I found the corresponding ribbon bar . Any info you guys can share would be greatly appreciated.

Jason

[lsmilitaria]

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[Tom Yanacek]

Hello Jason,

The 1939 EK2 does not belong on this bar. If the guy won the EK2 in both world wars, he would wear the 1914 Iron Cross with a 1939 Spange on the ribbon of the 1914 EK2.

Also, the last medal does not belong on the bar. That medal is a War Commemorative for the Royal German Legion of Volunteers that fought between 1803 -1814. It was instituted by King Ernst August of Hannover in May of 1841. The ribbon for this medal would be yellow and white.

Best regards,
Tom

[lsmilitaria]

Thanks Tom, any idea on what medal should be on the last bar?

[Tom Yanacek]

Thanks Tom, any idea on what medal should be on the last bar?

Hello Jason,

Sorry but that black & white ribbon eludes me. My guess is that it is for some unofficial Prussian commemorative or veteran association award of the Weimar Period. I thought at first that it was one of these (shown below) but, as you can see, the ribbon is not the same. I'm sure someone will recognize it though.

Best regards,
Tom

Prussian War Commemorative Cross 1914-1918:

[Valter Gorenc]

A nice catch there! Even better having a corresponding ribbon bar. The wrong medals would be easy to replace and I bet this Hannover comemorative medal is much rarer than missing WW1 unofficial cross.

[bytown]

I can't really tell for sure but the EKII looks like it could be a Juncker Cross?

I think I can see the flaw between the 1 & 9 in 1939.

A close up would help determine this.

Wayne

[lsmilitaria]

here are some close ups as requested.

Jason

[bytown]

I was wrong.

Don't think it's a Juncker.

Deschler......W&L..................maybe?

Maybe some of the experts can verify who the maker is.

Wayne

[Woolgar]

Not a Juncker or a W&L. That reverse date looks opdd to me

Nick

[VonPeter]

Who cares about the cross?

I wanna know what award that beautiful ribbon is for...

I would also like to see a pic of the backside of the ribbon bar if it possible.

[bytown]

How about...............................

Medal to the or for the King's German Legion?

Inscription is Brave & Loyal. A Service medal of some type.

Wayne

[Tom Yanacek]

Here are some more pictures of the Hannover War Commemorative for the Royal German Legion Volunteers, showing the correct ribbon at right. The medals were struck from bronze, supposedly from captured French cannon.

Best regards,
Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

Still trying to figure out that black and white ribbon. Does anyone have a copy of the Nimmergut Bänderkatalog?

[luftkrieg]

Regarding the last ribbon, my guess would be something Weimar/unofficial or perhaps some sort of Prussian/Hohenzollern regimental medal.

Kind regards
Pierce