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    Can anyone tell me what this rendering of the War Merit Cross With Swords is for? I have serached and can not find anything resembling it. Is it some sort of display or saleman's sample? Is it even real?

    Any opinions are welcome and greatly appreciated.

    Thanks to all in advance.

    Charles Betz
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    Reverse

    Reverse of the item.
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      #3
      to me looks like a bad mould with excess that would have to be cut away. i have looked at my ones and can see no evidence that the mould would be this bad which with the colour of the one shown could it be a possible modern attempt at faking ?? i did see some pics of kvk moulds once and will try see if i can find them on the net again

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        War Merit Cross Rendering

        Hello Chris,
        Thank you for the imput. As you stated, and I am leaning toward it, it appears as crude attempt at fakery. I've never seen anything like it. before.

        Thank you again.

        Charles Betz

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          #5
          do you have any input as where it came from ?? i have seen fakes that show a lighter bronze colour in areas hence my quote about colour etc. still looking for that net sight no luck yet

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            #6
            I think the cross itself looks fine. Very interesting piece. Could you post pics of the sides?
            Andy B.
            Collecting minis and KVKs

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              #7
              Source & Photos

              Hello Chris and Andy,
              Thank you for your assistance.

              Chris: The "medallion" came from a gun/militaria show in Northern California seven years ago. I hve no other information as to its provanance or 'legacy'. I just thought it looked unusual The vendor had no information other than he purchased it from a veteran in the local area. You know how that line that goes.

              Andy,
              Here are pictures ofthe edge of the item as you requested. I hope they help.

              Thanks again guys,

              Charles Betz
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              Last edited by C. Betz; 09-24-2006, 11:19 AM.

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                Edge 2

                Edge 2

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                  #9
                  Another Edge Picture

                  Edge Picture (Edge 2)
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                    Edge 3

                    Edge 3
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                      Edge 4

                      Edge 4
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                        #12
                        Bottom of Sword Handle Detail

                        Bottom of Sword Handle Detail
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                          Sword Tip Detail

                          Sword Tip Detail
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                            #14
                            This looks like a test strike and i lean towards original. The details look very nice and its obviously not mold.

                            best,
                            Gerd

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                              #15
                              Test Strike

                              Hello Gerd,
                              Thank you for the information. I blew the pictures of the edge up and it appears to be two, maybe even three piece construction.

                              Charles Betz

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