Memelland - fake or real?

[jabnus]

I have had this medal for some time now and after seeing another being posted that looks just like mine, i tried to look it up here on the board after i recieved a pm, but either the topic mentioned to me disappeared or i just can't find it.

So i decided to start my first topic here on the wehrmachtforum, in the hope someone can help me out.


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any help would be much appreciated, i always thought that memellands only came with another "g" in "erinnerunG" so i always held it for a copy.


grtz jabnus

[Wim Vangossum]

There are very convincing reproductions of this medal. I must say that all the three medals of the flowerwar that I have in my collection, have a littlebit more detail. More crispy. By al the three their are the same characteristics on the faces from the two persons holding the flag.

I have my doubts about the originality of this piece, but a second opinion will be helpfull on this one.

Regards, Theo

[Darrell]

Like Theo mentioned ... 10 people have 10 different opinions about these. Very hard to get a concensous. However, that being said, this is the type that has it's naysayers. Many like the type with the slanted "G" and the smaller "m" on the reverse.

[jabnus]

yes i am one of those people who like that slanted G also much more, and untill yesterday i believed my medal to be fake (i still do actually), on other discussion boards medals like mine are called fake, but i was very surprised to find here on the forum ( the forum i see as THE place with experts) people who think medals like this one to be real, so i thought id open a thread and get some responses ;-)



the thing is i got mine together with some other (old) things and it looks as you can see old and as if it has seen some action, so i was wondering...

[bigd]

I was told that on the Sudetenland and the Austrian medals the podium outlines should not touch the edge of the medal. If they do then it is a reproduction, i do not know how much truth is in this statement, but it is one i always remembered..

[chris clark]

this is my one. mine has been accepted as 100% as i have providence. the one posted looks not as sharpe or quality as my one.

[chris clark]

the quality between the two dont match

[Wim Vangossum]

Chris, The one you show has definiteley a characteristic on the faces that I mean. I have, like I mentioned before, the 3 different medals: An unknow maker, a Deschler and an Alois Rettenmeyer (marked 16 on the ring). The have all one thing the same: Their noses seems to be hit by Mike Tyson himself! What I try to say; their are varieties in their sharpness but they are all very pronounced in this specific erea instead off the (pressumed) fakes. It just one detail that I discovered by study from large pictures of this medals

regards, Theo

[Andy B.]

Is it me or do the letters (in the first one pictured) seem to be unevenly spaced and some don't seem to be on a straight line? Just something I noticed in comparison with Chris' medal.
Andy B. collecting mini badge stickpins

[George Stimson]

Here's one accepted copy of this medal. (Photos courtesy of Detlev Niemann.)

[wschmidt]

The examples presented for George Stimson are correct. I did not know the reference of the 3 types cited for Theo:

- An unknow maker;
- Deschler;
- Alois Rettenmeyer (marked 16 on the ring).

The example given for Georg would be a Deschler or unknow to maker?

This is the type more found and the had one as original. The example presented for Chris still generates some quarrel, even so I believes that it is original.

Regards,

Schmidt

[jabnus]

thank you for the replys, im convinced it IS a fake after all.

The reply of the podium/stage was a good tip, guess im going for another soon since this topic got me into this medal again and now i want an original ;-)

grtz jabnus

[mrg]

Hi Jabnus have to say would not be one or my collection, style of wording, look of the front are enough to put me off. All the best

[Frank Heukemes]

Same opinion here, one I would not like to own.