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    Memelland - fake or real?

    I have had this medal for some time now and after seeing another being posted that looks just like mine, i tried to look it up here on the board after i recieved a pm, but either the topic mentioned to me disappeared or i just can't find it.

    So i decided to start my first topic here on the wehrmachtforum, in the hope someone can help me out.


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    any help would be much appreciated, i always thought that memellands only came with another "g" in "erinnerunG" so i always held it for a copy.


    grtz jabnus
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    There are very convincing reproductions of this medal. I must say that all the three medals of the flowerwar that I have in my collection, have a littlebit more detail. More crispy. By al the three their are the same characteristics on the faces from the two persons holding the flag.

    I have my doubts about the originality of this piece, but a second opinion will be helpfull on this one.

    Regards, Theo
    Freedom is not for Free

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      #3
      Like Theo mentioned ... 10 people have 10 different opinions about these. Very hard to get a concensous. However, that being said, this is the type that has it's naysayers. Many like the type with the slanted "G" and the smaller "m" on the reverse.

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        #4
        yes i am one of those people who like that slanted G also much more, and untill yesterday i believed my medal to be fake (i still do actually), on other discussion boards medals like mine are called fake, but i was very surprised to find here on the forum ( the forum i see as THE place with experts) people who think medals like this one to be real, so i thought id open a thread and get some responses ;-)



        the thing is i got mine together with some other (old) things and it looks as you can see old and as if it has seen some action, so i was wondering...

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          #5
          I was told that on the Sudetenland and the Austrian medals the podium outlines should not touch the edge of the medal. If they do then it is a reproduction, i do not know how much truth is in this statement, but it is one i always remembered..

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            #6
            this is my one. mine has been accepted as 100% as i have providence. the one posted looks not as sharpe or quality as my one.
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              #7
              the quality between the two dont match
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                #8
                Chris, The one you show has definiteley a characteristic on the faces that I mean. I have, like I mentioned before, the 3 different medals: An unknow maker, a Deschler and an Alois Rettenmeyer (marked 16 on the ring). The have all one thing the same: Their noses seems to be hit by Mike Tyson himself! What I try to say; their are varieties in their sharpness but they are all very pronounced in this specific erea instead off the (pressumed) fakes. It just one detail that I discovered by study from large pictures of this medals

                regards, Theo
                Freedom is not for Free

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                  #9
                  Is it me or do the letters (in the first one pictured) seem to be unevenly spaced and some don't seem to be on a straight line? Just something I noticed in comparison with Chris' medal.
                  Andy B. collecting mini badge stickpins
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                    #10
                    Here's one accepted copy of this medal. (Photos courtesy of Detlev Niemann.)
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                    George

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                      #11
                      The examples presented for George Stimson are correct. I did not know the reference of the 3 types cited for Theo:

                      - An unknow maker;
                      - Deschler;
                      - Alois Rettenmeyer (marked 16 on the ring).

                      The example given for Georg would be a Deschler or unknow to maker?

                      This is the type more found and the had one as original. The example presented for Chris still generates some quarrel, even so I believes that it is original.

                      Regards,

                      Schmidt

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                        #12
                        thank you for the replys, im convinced it IS a fake after all.

                        The reply of the podium/stage was a good tip, guess im going for another soon since this topic got me into this medal again and now i want an original ;-)

                        grtz jabnus

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                          #13
                          Hi Jabnus have to say would not be one or my collection, style of wording, look of the front are enough to put me off. All the best

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                            #14
                            Same opinion here, one I would not like to own.
                            Cheers, Frank

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