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    #121
    U-Boat Soldbuch

    I have two U-Boat Soldbuchs I can share.

    The first one I know the name: Lothar Hoffert as I also have his award docs for U-Boat badge, EKI, EKII and U-Boat Clasp in Bronze.

    He was apparently on U-593.

    I'm relatively new to Soldbuchs, what pages show his deployments? What other pages are important.
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      #122
      Here is the Second. I can't quite make out his name.

      He was also awarded the U-Boat badge, EKI, EKII and the U-Boat front clasp in Bronze.
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        #123
        Originally posted by schmidtkevin View Post
        Here is the Second. I can't quite make out his name.

        He was also awarded the U-Boat badge, EKI, EKII and the U-Boat front clasp in Bronze.
        very nice soldbuch !
        his name: Hans Ka(e)lsch !
        show the awards they got !
        i'd like to have a look !

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          #124
          Here is the award page.
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            #125
            Hans Kölsch served aboard U 141, U 432, U 642 and U 3518.

            EK 2 is signed by Herbert Brünning Kdt. U-642, however the awards would be for another boat, most probably U-432.
            EK I is signed by Dr. Erwin Jestel when 1 Wach Offizier aboard U-642.

            /Ian
            Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

            Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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              #126
              Page 23-25 shows his units however with U-Boat Soldbücher you need to see all entries to be honest as sometimes the Flottilla is mentioned rather than the boat....so then you have to identify the signatures.

              /Ian
              Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

              Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                #127
                I can not find a Hoffert.....can you show page 4?
                Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                  #128
                  Here's page 4.
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                    #129
                    22.6.1942 - U-Boats Badge. After 2nd patrol of U-593.
                    23.11.1942 - EK II. After 5th patrol of U-593.
                    24.7.1943 - EK I. After 11th patrol of U-593.

                    Entries are signed Kapitänleutnant und Kommandant Gerd Kelbling RKT.

                    U-593 was sunk on 13.12.1943....he is not on my list as he was not on the boat when it sank...luckily for him.

                    /Ian
                    Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                    Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                      #130
                      Where do you get your information from?

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                        #131
                        Originally posted by Stormfighter View Post
                        In 1986, I bought two U-Boat Soldbücher from Emilie Caldwell Stewart's list. After researching them, I learned that both sailors, Otto Krupp and Kurt Krüsmann, went down on U-378 on 20 October 1943. Following is some basic information on U-378:

                        The Type VIIC boat U-378 - German U-boats of WWII - uboat.net

                        After buying the Soldbücher. I wrote to the person's registrar office in Hillscheid, Westerwald, to see if Otto Krupp had any living relatives. This office informed me that Otto's sister, Gerta Hühnerfeld, was still alive. I wrote to her immediately and she soon provided me with some photos of Otto and his crew. Frau Hühnerfeld was shocked to learn that I had her brother's Soldbuch. Sadly, she asked "Have you heard from Otto?" (Surely she must have hoped that he had been captured and was living in the U.S.). She also asked, "Has his U-Boat been raised?", perhaps thinking his Soldbuch had been retrieved from U-378. I then explained to her that U-Boat Soldbücher were generally left at a sailor's base before their departure and that her brother, unfortunately, was definitely not alive.

                        She told me some stories about Otto, stating that her brother always wanted to be a sailor and wanted to serve on a cruiser or some other large ship. However, he ended up on a U-Boat. His mother didn't want to join the Navy. She said: "There aren't any walkways on the ocean." Krupp's sister told me that she was always comforted by the fact that her brother had one very close friend who attended the same Navy signal school in Aurich as Otto did and was assigned to Otto's same U-Boat - she simply called him his "Kölner Krumpel" ("Buddy from Köln/Cologne"). After reading this letter, I immediately went to my collection room to look at the other U-Boat Soldbuch that I bought from Emilie. I looked for Otto's place of birth on page 2. It read: Köln; furthermore, the Soldbücher were consecutively number, 19 and 20. Elated, I wrote back to Frau Hühnerfeld and asked if perhaps Otto's buddy was named Kurt Krüsmann. She soon answered and said: "Although I never met him, I do know that his name was Kurt Krüsmann. This is a miraculous discovery." Along with her letter, she sent me a photo of her brother Otto and Kurt."
                        This is indeed one of those stories that makes one believe in the supernatural. Amazingly the two Soldbücher had remained together - seemingly their bond was so strong that they could not be separated. Of all the IDs in my collection, this set is one of my favorites.

                        Barry

                        bump up to those who still didnt read this story.
                        i enjoyed iy. thanks for sharing the story and collection experience.

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                          #132
                          Originally posted by PanzerElite View Post
                          bump up to those who still didnt read this story.
                          i enjoyed iy. thanks for sharing the story and collection experience.
                          What a wonderful story. Thank you, PanzerElite, for resurrecting it! Unfortunately, I think the days when something like that would have been possible are pretty much behind us.

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                            #133
                            U-455 Crewman Adam Muller. Served on all 10 patrols, finally going down with the rest of the crew off Genoa in April of 1944 after striking a German mine.

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                              #134
                              Funker-Obergefreiter Heinrich Bauer, who served and died on IA type U-25 in 1940.

                              Volunteer for the Kriegsmarine, after training as a radio operator, he served on board the U-boot U-25, of the 2. U-boot flotille, from July 1939 to August 1940, when it was lost.
                              The U-25, type IA submarine, had a short but successful career. During the 5 patrols carried out, for a total of 129 days at sea, it sank 8 ships and damaged another, for a total of about 57,000 tons.
                              During his first three patrols, during which 7 ships were destroyed, the U-25 was commanded by Kapitänleutnant Viktor Schütze, who would finish his career at 5th place in the ranking of the major submarine axes , with 180.000 tons and 35 sunk ships.
                              Around 1 August 1940, during the drafting of a minefield north of the Netherlands, the U-25 fell into a minefield layed by British destroyers and sank bringing all 49 crew members with it, including our Heinrich .
                              The body of a crew member was found on the shores of Helgoland (German archipelago a lot farther to the west) on 19 August.
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                                Other pages.
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