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    #31
    Hi Simon...It 'also important to put Italy under the code 81), a friend who collects Wehrpass for 20 years has found many times the number 81, in the documents of German prisoners in Italy.

    Thanks for the link is really interesting ... .. I had not seen American dog tags made ​​for German prisoners ...

    Regards
    Mills

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      #32
      Hello

      Imo it could also be a german pow, taken in Italy and than transferred to a pow camp in africa, or taken in africa and transferred to italy.


      Best regards, Fronti

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        #33
        Hi fronti...It 'very likely that in many cases it went

        The WP I posted is of 114 Jager Division, which was virtually only in Italy and never in Africa...the soldier was Captured in Italy and was interned in Rimini (Italy).

        I would say that we can consider it as the southern front 81 (North Africa - Italy)...

        - Regarding the request of David Lank ... I suppose that his grandfather was German and not Japanese ... but it was not listed G,but as J.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Mills87 View Post
          Hi fronti...It 'very likely that in many cases it went

          The WP I posted is of 114 Jager Division, which was virtually only in Italy and never in Africa...the soldier was Captured in Italy and was interned in Rimini (Italy).

          I would say that we can consider it as the southern front 81 (North Africa - Italy)...

          - Regarding the request of David Lank ... I suppose that his grandfather was German and not Japanese ... but it was not listed G,but as J.



          If is a WP of a soldier of 114 JD may have been captured only in Italy... the Pow Camp 11 in Rimini Enklave was exactly a Villa Marina (4 km south of Cesenatico).....

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            #35
            Originally posted by mufasa View Post
            If is a WP of a soldier of 114 JD may have been captured only in Italy... the Pow Camp 11 in Rimini Enklave was exactly a Villa Marina (4 km south of Cesenatico).....
            Thanks for the information Mufasa! can you tell me something more about this place? (PM)

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mills87 View Post
              Thanks for the information Mufasa! can you tell me something more about this place? (PM)
              You can find much information (some very interesting taken from newspapers printed in the Lager) in Rimini Enklave 1945-1947 Patrizia Dogliani Ed. Clueb 2005

              for example the blocks was divided by nationality or specialty .. in the 11 and 11a were normal German soldiers...

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                #37
                Originally posted by mufasa View Post
                You can find much information (some very interesting taken from newspapers printed in the Lager) in Rimini Enklave 1945-1947 Patrizia Dogliani Ed. Clueb 2005

                for example the blocks was divided by nationality or specialty .. in the 11 and 11a were normal German soldiers...
                Thanks Mufasa!!I had already heard about this book ... I'll try to get a copy!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by mr.dogtag View Post
                  Funny, I have recently bought a US M-1940 POW tag with following inscription:
                  RUSS JOSEF
                  OBERGEFREITER
                  81-SP- 161892 H

                  any idea what can SP go for. C'mon it can't be Spanish....
                  Hi Al

                  We have just another SP in MFF....


                  http://www.militaria-fundforum.com/s...46#post2305746


                  IMO it can`t be a spaniard...

                  Any new idea ?




                  Best regards, Fronti

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                    #39
                    Thank you for the clarification on the 81 code.

                    Yes, my grandfather was German (part of 4th Fallschirmdivision) on the Nettuno front. He surrendered soon after the breakout at Nettuno.

                    According to the WAST records on my Grandfather he was transported from Rom direct to the US Camp Pickett (VA) via New York. WAST states that the journey from Rom to Camp Pickett was completed within 4 days. That seems a little quick to me but that's for another discussion.

                    Regards
                    David

                    Originally posted by Mills87 View Post
                    Hi fronti...It 'very likely that in many cases it went

                    The WP I posted is of 114 Jager Division, which was virtually only in Italy and never in Africa...the soldier was Captured in Italy and was interned in Rimini (Italy).

                    I would say that we can consider it as the southern front 81 (North Africa - Italy)...

                    - Regarding the request of David Lank ... I suppose that his grandfather was German and not Japanese ... but it was not listed G,but as J.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Frontalschaden View Post
                      Hi Al

                      We have just another SP in MFF....

                      http://www.militaria-fundforum.com/s...46#post2305746

                      IMO it can`t be a spaniard...

                      Any new idea ?

                      Best regards, Fronti
                      Humm. Interesting to see another example. Where was the one on MFF found, do you know? Were these men German nationals who had worked/lived in Spain before the war?

                      Obvious German names, assume German nationality, but for whatever reason the Americans listed them as originating from Spain?

                      More questions than answers at the moment.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Frontalschaden View Post
                        Hi Al

                        We have just another SP in MFF....


                        http://www.militaria-fundforum.com/s...46#post2305746


                        IMO it can`t be a spaniard... Any new idea ?
                        Best regards, Fronti
                        Wonder if this sheds any new light, there is a similar one for sale on Ebay:

                        http://www.ebay.de/itm/Org-Erkennung...item2eb933d7bb

                        Claims the owner is ex-German armed forces and held at Dachau. His discharge papers are also for sale in another auction! What do you think Fronti?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Simon H View Post
                          Wonder if this sheds any new light, there is a similar one for sale on Ebay:

                          http://www.ebay.de/itm/Org-Erkennung...item2eb933d7bb

                          Claims the owner is ex-German armed forces and held at Dachau. His discharge papers are also for sale in another auction! What do you think Fronti?

                          Hello

                          I have absolutely no clue, what the SP means...... It is a riddle.


                          Best regards, Fronti


                          P.S.:
                          BTW... His name is Alois Auflauf. That`s funny, because AUFLAUF is the german word for casserole/soufflé.
                          Last edited by Frontalschaden; 11-16-2011, 02:24 PM.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Frontalschaden View Post
                            Hello

                            I have absolutely no clue, what the SP means...... It is a riddle.


                            Best regards, Fronti


                            P.S.:
                            BTW... His name is Alois Auflauf. That`s funny, because AUFLAUF is the german word for casserole/soufflé.
                            I thought you would appreciate that Fronti!

                            Auflauf was discharged from the Army, so nothing special with the SP number, but he's definately NOT Spanish. So perhaps this is just some sort of reference for prisoners held in Dachau after the war? A riddle indeed.

                            Kind Regards,
                            Simon

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Simon H View Post
                              I thought you would appreciate that Fronti!

                              Auflauf was discharged from the Army, so nothing special with the SP number, but he's definately NOT Spanish. So perhaps this is just some sort of reference for prisoners held in Dachau after the war? A riddle indeed.

                              Kind Regards,
                              Simon

                              Interesting theory, maby S.P is "Special Prisoner" or similar?

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Joe Mc View Post
                                Interesting theory, maby S.P is "Special Prisoner" or similar?
                                Still trawling for evidence Joe. The Dachau link might imply that the wearers of such Ekm were perhaps SS prisoners under trial - this might earn them the nomenclature of "special" but all the Ekm I've seen imply nothing more than standard Heer ranks rather than SS.

                                If anyone else has, or comes across further examples of these Ekm then please let me know.

                                Kind Regards,
                                Simon.

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