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    WP Totenkopf info needed

    Hello collectors,

    I have a WP from a guy served in the SS Totenkopf division.
    the wehrpass itself has been discussed here but i can not get the link in it??

    Anyway, i have a few questions on "how to read a WP" and it might sound stupid but the German hand writing.........in combination with specific "Army slang"........

    Ok, my questions:

    1)Can someone "read" the signature of the Major (Sturmbahnfuhrer)? Am i correct by saying the stamp says J.U. (then signature) Major? What means J.U.?



    2) What means "stammrollen" and what was the function?

    3) can someone tell me a bit more about the units he served? I know the 1st one was 8th Kleines Kraftwagen Kolonne, but then i can see" 4th K. Kp." what does that mean?



    Apparently Berlin got bombed as the last unit was not filled in

    4) FYI the feldpostnummer has been identified 29242 and this seems to be correct according to stempelbank



    5) what kind of wound did he got?



    6) picture has been taken out (unfortunately!) and it is not possible to get more info from the guy. If there is someone on this forum living in Karinthien send me a PM

    May i thank everybody already for his / her contribution?

    Cheers
    shootyourshot

    #2
    Anybody have a clue?

    thanks guys!

    cheers
    shootyourshot

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      #3
      The Major signature in question 1...is that the same signature on page 1? i.e. the issuing Major from the Wehrmebirks or Wehrmeldamt....not SS.

      Off home now...will have a look at the other questions later.

      /Ian
      Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

      Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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        #4
        I agree with Ian, it will be easyer with all the photo of your Wehrpass to help yourself. For sure this is Major from the Wehrmebirks or Wehrmeldamt who delivre this document.

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          #5
          hi Ian,

          yes the major is the "guy" who signed this WP.

          let me know what you think on all the questions.

          thanks!

          shootyourshot

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            #6
            Originally posted by shootyourshot View Post
            1)Can someone "read" the signature of the Major (Sturmbahnfuhrer)? Am i correct by saying the stamp says J.U. (then signature) Major? What means J.U.?

            2) What means "stammrollen" and what was the function?

            3) can someone tell me a bit more about the units he served? I know the 1st one was 8th Kleines Kraftwagen Kolonne, but then i can see" 4th K. Kp." what does that mean?

            Apparently Berlin got bombed as the last unit was not filled in

            4) FYI the feldpostnummer has been identified 29242 and this seems to be correct according to stempelbank

            5) what kind of wound did he got?

            6) picture has been taken out (unfortunately!) and it is not possible to get more info from the guy. If there is someone on this forum living in Karinthien send me a PM
            1) i.V. - in Vertretung - as the representative of / acting for

            2) Stammrolle - Nominal/Roster Roll. Each member of the unit had a Stammrollennummber or roster number. This was either for field and replacement units. This was the number or position he held on the unit roll.

            3) 4 Kraftfahr Kompanie - 4th Motor Transport Company

            4) FP Nr. 29242 :
            (Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) 7. kleine Kraftwagen-Kolonne SS-TK-Division,
            (31.7.1942-9.2.1943) 7. kleine Kraftwagen-Kolonne SS-Panzergrenadier-Division TK,
            (10.2.1943-23.8.1943) 4. Kraftfahr-Kompanie SS-Divisions-Nachschub-Trupp (TK),
            (24.8.1943-5.4.1944) 7.2.1944 4. Kraftfahr-Kompanie Divisions-Nachschub-Trupp 3 (3. SS-Division),
            (6.4.1944-9.11.1944) 21.8.1944 4. Kraftfahr-Kompanie Nachschub-Trupp 3 (3. SS-Division).

            Signatures:

            SS Untersturmführer Leonhard Poth
            SS Obersturmführer Hermann Köhler

            5) Grenade splinter to left lung and left thigh.

            /Ian
            Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

            Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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              #7
              wow Ian.....you keep surprising me...especially on the wound !!

              i really appreciate your efforts on this, many thanks!!

              cheers
              shootyourshot

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                #8
                OOps...as Gerdan pointed out in a PM to me, I made a mistake..........

                The Major signed "i. A." - im Auftrag - by order of - and not "i. V." - in Vertretung.

                /Ian
                Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                  #9
                  hi ian

                  i forgive you on your mistake

                  Am i correct with Obersturmfuhrer Kohler, is (or was) he the assistent of Hugo Jury?

                  Info Hugo Jury Wikipedia:
                  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  Hugo Jury (13 July 1887, Mährisch Rothmühl (now Moravská Radiměř, Czech Republic) – 8 May 1945, Zwettl, Lower Austria) was an Austrian Nazi.

                  Hugo Jury was a physician and a National Socialist politician. From 11 March to 13 March 1938, he was Minister for Social Administration in the Seyß-Inquart government. In May 1938, he became Gauleiter of the Gau of "Reichsgau Niederdonau" (Lower Austria). As of 1940 he was furthermore Reich Governor, and as of 1942 also Reich Defence Commissar, for this region.

                  He committed suicide at the end of World War II.

                  He was reputed to have been the lover of Elisabeth Schwarzkopf.[1]
                  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  Or am i going too far?

                  Just curiosity :-)

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