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    Soldbuch (St Nazaire) Help

    Can any member help with this Navy Coastal Artillery soldbuch please.

    I have a few queries the photo is stamped with two different Field post numbers? would this be quite normal? and appears glued in.

    And the black ink writing..?

    These are the only pictures.
    Served with Mar Flak Abt 809 of the 22.Mar.Flak-Rgt.
    (the same month renamed V.Mar.Flak-Brigade) based at St.Nazaire.

    Field Post Numbers : 22742 and 00681 can anyone confirm these units?

    Regards
    Scott
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        Originally posted by Mons 1914 View Post
        Field Post Numbers : 22742 and 00681 can anyone confirm these units?

        Regards
        Scott
        FP Nr. 22742

        (19.7.1941-14.2.1942) Stab Marine-Flak-Abteilung 809,
        (31.7.1942-9.2.1943) Stab, 5. (= A) u. 7. (= S) Batterie Marine-Flak-Abteilung 809,
        24.11.1943 Stab u. 1.-8. Batterie Marine-Flak-Abteilung 809,
        20.3.1944 Stab u. Einheit Marine-Flak-Abteilung 809.

        FP Nr. 00681

        (28.4.1940-14.9.1940) Stab Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung Seeland,
        dann Stab Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 308,
        dann Stab Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 508,
        (27.1.1942-14.7.1942) Stab und 4. Batterie Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 508,
        (15.7.1942-24.1.1943) Stab, 4. u. 6. Batterie Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 508,
        dann Stab, 4.,5. u. 6. BatterieMarine-Artillerie-Abteilung 508,
        16.8.1944 Stab und 5.-6. Batterie Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 508,
        6.12.1944 Stab und Einheit Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 508.


        Can you post the units on page 23?



        /Ian
        Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

        Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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          #5
          Thanks for that Ian,
          Can I just ask would it be normal to see two different stamps on a photo?

          Issue stamp on page 2 appears to be 00681 which matches one of the stamps on the photo

          As requested page 23 and others.
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            Pages 10 -11
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              Thats page 2 and 3 not page 23!!!

              I have seen it when two different stamps have been used but they have been colocated units.....

              Need to check were 807 and 508 were when the Soldbuch was opened.

              /Ian
              Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

              Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                Pages 12 - 13

                Appears to still be with FR Nr 22742 mid to late 1944 and into early 1945 which would be correct for St Nazaire right.
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                  Originally posted by Ian Jewison View Post
                  Thats page 2 and 3 not page 23!!!
                  Working on it.!

                  Pages 14b & 14c
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                    Pages 22 & 23

                    This page is full I'll request more.
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                    Last edited by Mons 1914; 04-09-2009, 05:24 AM.

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                      Could it be that the original issuing unit used another photo or only stamped the top of the photo then sometime at a later date his new unit FP Nr 22742 stamped the other.
                      Last edited by Mons 1914; 04-09-2009, 06:05 AM.

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                        The Soldbuch was opened by FP Nr. 19018 D, this FP Nr. was cancelled and it changed to the FP Nr. also on page 2 and the photo...see below:

                        FP Nr. 19018 D

                        (Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) 4. Batterie Artillerie-Regiment 176,
                        (2.1.1940-27.4.1940) gestrichen, wurde Fp.Nr. 07628 B,
                        (15.9.1940-31.1.1941) Stabskompanie des Marinebefehlshaber Dänemark,
                        (27.1.1942-14.7.1942) 5.(= D) u. 6.(ohne) Batterie Marine-Artillerie-Abteilung 508,
                        (15.7.1942-24.1.1943) gestrichen, 5. Batterie wurde Fp.Nr. 00681 D u. 6. Batterie Fp.Nr. 00681 S,
                        (1.8.1943-23.3.1944) 23.12.1943 Stab II u. 5.-8. Kompanie Grenadier-Regiment 979,
                        (7.11.1944-Kriegsende) 21.11.1944 gestrichen.


                        That sorted that out.....and I presume that his new unit simply authorsied it as well!!!

                        /Ian
                        Last edited by Ian Jewison; 04-09-2009, 06:36 AM.
                        Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                        Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                          Thank Ian,
                          Your FP Nr database saves the day again!

                          So all in all everything appears correct??

                          FP Nr 22742 ( Marine-Flak-Abteilung 809) is confirmed right up till the latter stages in 1945 so he was around the fortress area which ties in well I think.
                          Last edited by Mons 1914; 04-10-2009, 05:48 AM.

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                            Pages 20 - 21

                            6/Mar Flak Abt 809.
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                              Pages 4 - 5

                              KVK II with Swords & not sure is the other Coastal Artillery Badge?
                              Again FP Nr 22742.
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