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Originally posted by lelez View Post
Thanks to you Steve
Daniele
thanks Steve you know what document i mean
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I thought I would bump up Daniele's post by showing a Wehrpass I recently acquired (thanks Lee!). It belonged to Unteroffizier Franz Rosenthal, who served with Obergefreiter Hans Holub at the "Morris Battery" (both men served in the 2. Batterie of Artillerie-Regiment 1716). The Wehrpass was brought back by a British veteran, who appears to have lugged this Wehrpass with him through the end of the war.
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Originally posted by Stormfighter View PostI thought I would bump up Daniele's post by showing a Wehrpass I recently acquired (thanks Lee!). It belonged to Unteroffizier Franz Rosenthal, who served with Obergefreiter Hans Holub at the "Morris Battery" (both men served in the 2. Batterie of Artillerie-Regiment 1716). The Wehrpass was brought back by a British veteran, who appears to have lugged this Wehrpass with him through the end of the war.
Barry
Very nice Wehrpass Barry with some really interesting history behind it!
Rob
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Originally posted by Archi View PostHi !
Thanks for sharing those two interesting documents !
I was really astonished to see the third entry on p. 22 of the Wehrpass :
Unteroffiziers-Diensttuer
- Any idea why this was entered in the Wehrpass ?
- Are there similar examples or is this a rather unusual entry ?
Thanks,
Archi
You don't see a Diensttuer entry that often, so yes, it's not that common to see. Fortunately, I can tell you what this title refers to and why. I learned about the Diensttuer designation directly from the former Hauptfeldwebel (First Sergeant), also known as "der Spiess," of Sturmstaffel 1 (Assault [Fighter] Squadron 1). Incidentally, I have been writing a history about Sturmstaffel 1 for many years. I visited the Hauptfeldwebel of Sturmstaffel 1 in 2000 and he still had his Wehrpass. An entry in the Wehrpass shows that he was a Hauptfeldwebel-Diensttuer (Acting First Sergeant). I asked him about the entry and he told me that even though he was charged with the duties of a Hauptfeldwebel, he was not permitted to wear the so-called Kolbenringen (Piston Rings) on the sleeves of his uniform, that is, the two bands of silver tress on the lower uniform sleeves, because he had not attended the Hauptfeldwebel training course.
In the case of Franz Rosenthal, he was an Unteroffizier-Diensttuer (Acting Sergeant), having been charged with the duties of an Unteroffizier without having attended the training course for Unteroffiziere. In brief, a Diensttuer performs the duties of his designated rank, but has not attended the training course that was normally required to attain that rank.
Barry
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