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    #1

    Battle entry help (again!)

    Hello,

    Here is another wehrpass with bad handwritting-can someone help with the translation?this ones not to bad(compared to my last wehrpass I needed help with- 3 pages of battle entries!)I believe he was in action at the Kuban bridgehead were he was KIA-how about the other entries?also i believe the second scan is stateing he was killed at kuban-am i missing any major details?

    thanks Yancy
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    heres scan #2-also what is abgeschlossen mean(I got "terminated" from a language translator)-its stamped on ever page in this wehrpass that there is an entry.

    Yancy

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      #3
      20.4.42-8.7.42 Use in the operations area during the east campaign.
      9.7.42-12.7.42 Combat in the Mius position
      13.7.42-20.7.42 Breakthrough through the enemy winter positions in the Donez basin
      21.7.42-26.7.42 Combat for Rostok and Bataisk
      27.7.42-30.7.42 Pursuit battle until the Jeja(?)
      31.7.-2.8.42 Combat on bridgehead Kurch.....?
      3.8.42-10.8.42 Pursuit until the Cuban

      Abgeschlossen means closed.

      /Ian
      Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

      Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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        #4
        Yancy,

        the entry 'tödlich verunglückt', generally means that this man died in a non-combat related incident, such as an auto accident or the like.

        Erich Craciun

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          #5
          Hello,

          thanks for the translation Ian-Eric thanks for the infornation,interesting a non combat related death,so much for my KIA at the Kuban bridgehead wehrpass!

          Yancy

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            #6
            It does say 'tödlich verunglückt' but does it not say "Kopfschuß Infanterie Geschütz" underneath?

            A non combat related infantry gun shot to the head!?!?!?!?

            /Ian
            Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

            Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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              #7
              Coulñd be an accident cleaning a weapon? Accidental shoot by a sentinel? polite way to say suicide?

              There are the explanations I find to this extrange notation.

              Angel
              Looking for DKiG Heer winner Soldbuch who also won the TDB and/or CCC, specially in Silver.

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                #8
                Ian,

                you are absolutely right!

                Angel, suicide would be a little difficult with the Infanteriegeschuetz....

                Interesting notation in any case.

                Erich.

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                  #9
                  Sorry, I used Ian translation and take gun for a rifle not a cannon, but in desesperate situation a cannon shot is more secure than a rifle shot, I know a soldier who is still alive after shooting in his head with a 7.62x51 asault rifle.

                  Angel
                  Looking for DKiG Heer winner Soldbuch who also won the TDB and/or CCC, specially in Silver.

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                    #10
                    Hi all,

                    couldn't it be "Infanterie Geschoss" instead of "Infanterie Geschütz"? I think Geschoss makes more sense as I think that shooting into someone's head with an artillery shell sounds a bit strange, doesn't it? So, maybe Angel is right with the first two of his explanations...

                    All the best,

                    Christian

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                      #11
                      Sounds more like it Christian....

                      I had a group some years ago that had a letter to the parents detailing their son's death..."after combat with partisans the unit was returning to the rear in light vehicles....after going over a mound of earth at speed your son's weapon was discharged going through his hand and removing the right side of his head"....

                      This I thought was a bit revealing I thought for the parents!?!?!?

                      I can not remember now what the Wehrpaß entry said but I do think I still have a photocopy of it somewhere.....

                      /Ian
                      Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                      Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                        #12
                        Hello,

                        thanks for the added details guys,that at least makes it a little more interesting(as opposed to getting killed in a car accident!)Ian that letter to the parents about there son removing the right side of his head with a accidental discharge is a bit much!not the kind of letter i would want to recieve about my kid-I would have rather have them tell me he "died in a accident" rather than the details in that case!

                        thanks again guys!

                        Yancy

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