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    Polizei Dienstpass SS Polizei Reiterabteilung III

    This Dienstpass came in today. Dienstpass of Johann Zangl, a member of the SS Polizei Reiterabteilung III.

    He joined the Reiterabteilung on the 28th of november 1941. In the pass it is mentioned that he served from september 1939 until november 1943 in Poland, also anti partisanaction area Lublin. Also it was involved in "Erntefest" on of the biggest anti partisan actions. After november 1943 he was transferred back to Munic.

    What is also very remarkable, is that it was also involved in the hunting of the Jews after the uprising in Sobibor (oktober 1943) and the "Absperrung" of Majdanek (november 1943), which is in Russia

    Curilla mentions in his book, that this unit made 42.050 victims (Jews, partisans and locals).

    He received the following decorations:


    Polizie Dienstauszeichnung, KVK 2nd class without swords, KVK 2nd class with swords, EK2 and IAB. The most decorations are not in his pass mentioned, but are mentioned in the Personalbogen, which is with the set.

    What puzzels me is that with which actions he would have received the EK and the IAB. That must have been then with anti partisan actions, I have no proof that they did actual frontduties.

    Somewhere (I think after May 1944) he was kicked by a horse on the head and was severly wounded.


    With 42.500 victims, this is one of the Polizei units with the highest killing rates. Only 7 units had higher killing rates than Reiterabteilung III
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                  Hello Necker,

                  Nice grouping, it is always nice to have a photo in a polizei group.

                  Imo the EK2 isn't original.
                  The handwritting is compleetly different then the rest of the awards, it is also not in sutterlin German like the rest of the award entries and it looks squeezed in also.
                  It happens so much, their are always people that feel that they need to upgrade an allready nice group.
                  For me it doesn't detract from his value it is still a nice polizei grouping.

                  Cheers,
                  Peter

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                    #10
                    Hello Peter,

                    EK2 entry is 1000% original.

                    This particular set has never been in collectors hands before. I am not going to discuss the originality of the entry further. It is good and has always bin there. By the way, it's also the time between the entry's what makes the different handwriting. The same as with WP or SB entrys.

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                      Hello Necker,

                      Because you are so convinced of the EK2 entry, I took a seconde look.
                      In his advantage I must say that the "2" looks the same as the "2" in the date-entry on the page in posting #7.

                      He got the wounded badge in silver also that is an award that only can be earned in a combat cituation.
                      So now we have three of those combatawards: the woundbadge in silver, IAB and EK2.
                      If you get the woundbadge in silver immidiatly it means that his wound was quite serious, in most cases if you recieve the wounded badge in silver as first wound badge award it means that you aren't fit for frontline service anymore (for example an amputated limb).
                      This is most likely also the reason he got transfered back to Germany.
                      Being kicked in the head by a horse is an accident for accidents you don't get the woundbadge.
                      The woundbadge in silver usually comes with an EK2 if you didn't earned that award before ofcourse as recognition of your handicap, I think this is the case here.
                      So this means also that this policeman did frontline duty on the Eastern front perhaps only for a short while, and in this short time he got seriously wounded .

                      Cheers,
                      Peter
                      Last edited by peter u; 05-18-2007, 09:48 AM.

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                        Hello Peter,

                        Thanks for your reaction.

                        Then I have learned something important today: you don't get wound badge for being severly kicked in the head by a horse

                        Oke, quit the joking. What I can see on the entrys in the pass, is that he was all the time that he was in the East, he was in Poland. Poland was of course an occupied country, so with the information I have now, that means he got his combat awards in Poland (in occupied country). Could be possible, but not likely (I think).

                        Were there partisan battles were one could get combat awards?


                        But perhaps other members can clear this out. Further reactions are welcome.

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