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      i know nothing about wp i just trusted e-stand
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        i hope these these stop any1 else getting ripped
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              #21
              Ok her I go again:


              The wp posted by scrooge is a typical example of a to KL-guard upgraded wp.

              How does it work:
              - You buy a wp that has only pages 1 untill 5 filled in.
              They are not that expensive; than you use homemade stamps to fill in the rest of the pages. A 15 minute job and a 15€ wp becomes a 250€ wp, easy money.

              - Look at those dodgy KL-wp's the only use one type of stamp to fill in the KL unit on page 11 & 12. In original KL-Sachsenhausen wp's different types of stamps are used.
              Believe me their is only one KL-Sachsenhausen administration office they used only their type of stamps to fill in all the wp's in their administration.
              These are the typical stamps you can see in all the example of KL-Sachsenhausen wp's that came on the market in the 90's.

              - In the fake wp's on debate here you can see that the used the "ubernommen as sturmmann in the waffen ss" stamp never to be seen before being used in other original KL-sachsenhausen wp's.
              Also that stamp was used in KL-Auschwitz III. How is that possible?

              - Look also at mister Straubs trade: flugmotoren masch.-schloser, airplane motor mechanic that is why he was not drafted in to service, he does a very specific job for the German wareffort. Those people were certainly not needed to garde KL's.

              What more proof is needed here? A statement from mister Straub under oath that he was not a member of the KL-system?
              KL-Sachsenhausen are the most commen KL-related wp's you w'll find, in the 90's hunderds of them came on the market all with the same type of stamp used.
              And I'am going the end my posting with a Flemish phrase I don't know if it translates in English but it is very proper in this debat:
              "wat baten kaars en bril als de uil niet ziene wil" (what good ar candels and glasses if the owl doesn't want to see).

              If the dealers that sold those dodgy wp's on this forum have some customercare and their "livelong guarantee on originalty" is worth something: money is going to be refunded.

              Cheers,
              Peter
              Last edited by peter u; 04-09-2007, 03:42 AM.

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                #22
                Did anyone happen to save the pictures of the one that was for sale on the estand?

                if so, please let me know.


                Thanks,
                Rob

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                  #23
                  Didn't save it, Rob.

                  I can't believe that someone really bought it after reading this discussion...
                  Why spending more than $300 on an item of which you are not sure that it is good.

                  Strange people, strange world....

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Rob Johnson View Post
                    Did anyone happen to save the pictures of the one that was for sale on the estand?

                    if so, please let me know.


                    Thanks,
                    Rob
                    Rob,

                    Check your browser's cache. You might find the pics saved there. Or at least some of them.

                    Cheers,

                    Al

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                      #25
                      As a result of reading this thread, I now realise that 2 Sachsenhausen WP I bought together some months ago are fake, by the looks of them.

                      I will post them here for comment.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Alman2102 View Post
                        Rob,

                        Check your browser's cache. You might find the pics saved there. Or at least some of them.

                        Cheers,

                        Al


                        Al-

                        I did. Not there... I clear it out regularly.


                        Thanks though!
                        Rob

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                          #27
                          Rob,

                          I always keep my cache filled. I will search for them, and post as many as I will be able to find.

                          Cheers,

                          Al

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nico C View Post
                            Didn't save it, Rob.

                            I can't believe that someone really bought it after reading this discussion...
                            Why spending more than $300 on an item of which you are not sure that it is good.

                            Strange people, strange world....


                            Nico-

                            It's quite possible that it didn't sell at all, and the seller removed it and just marked ot "SOLD" due to the overwhelmingly negative thread regarding its authenticity.

                            The seller is a Association member who sells lots of paper and ID's here all the time. From my experiences I've found him to be a friendly and reputable individual, and from reading his replies I honestly don't think that there were any intention to rip anyone off.

                            Rob

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