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    #31
    Congratulations Rob very hard to find a Soldbook from SS Hitlerjugend and the first time that I see a Verpflichtunserklärung from Hitlerjugend , perfect

    Regards Thomas

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      #32
      Very nice set Rob.

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        #33
        SS are not my subject, but you have here a very nice and interesting piece. Congratulations !

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          #34
          Thanks for all the continued complements, guys!

          Originally posted by Jon Fish View Post
          Lovely picture, fantastic SB, makes me want to start collecting these only joking .
          Yeah, do us all a favor and stick to Blood Orders

          Rob

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            #35
            Interesting group....was this the one originally with the cufftitle?

            Here's a few signature for you:

            Page 3. SS Obersturmf******252;hrer Gerhard Sentke
            Verpflichtungserkl******228;rung. SS Obersturmf******252;hrer Bruno Zantop. KiA 18.6.1944
            F******252;hrerschein. SS Hauptsturmf******252;hrer Gerhard Bremer DKiG

            /Ian
            Last edited by Ian Jewison; 02-11-2007, 04:38 PM.
            Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

            Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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              #36
              Ian-

              Yes, it is. I was contacted by the individual who purchased the cufftitle grouping from the Collector's Guild and he asked if I would be interested in purchasing the Soldbuch and Führerschein, as he was going to be selling them off. I got very lucky!

              Thanks for the signatures. Yes, the sig on the Führerschein is the commander of III./SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt.26, RK and EL holder Gerhard Bremer while he was still a Hauptsturmführer

              Thanks for the other two, I was still working on those!

              Rob


              Originally posted by Ian Jewison View Post
              Interesting group....was this the one originally with the cufftitle?

              Here's a few signature for you:

              Page 3. SS Obersturmführer Gerhard Sentke
              Verpflichtungserklärung. SS Obersturmführer Bruno Zantop. KiA 18.6.1944
              Führerschein. SS Hauptsturmführer Gerhard Bremer DKiG

              /Ian

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                #37
                this is about as good as you can get as far as soldbuch collecting goes.

                The peak !

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by milcollector View Post
                  this is about as good as you can get as far as soldbuch collecting goes.

                  The peak !
                  You really think so?????
                  Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                  Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                    #39
                    Milcollector,

                    Thanks for the enthusiasm, but as Ian has pointed out, this doesn't come close to being anywhere near as impressive as some of the books he has in his collection

                    A great book, yes, but the peak of SB collecting? Well... I think that would be a bit of a strecth

                    Rob


                    Originally posted by Ian Jewison View Post
                    You really think so?????

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                      #40
                      Fantastic Soldbuch Rob, thanks for sharing!

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Rob Johnson View Post
                        Milcollector,

                        Thanks for the enthusiasm, but as Ian has pointed out, this doesn't come close to being anywhere near as impressive as some of the books he has in his collection
                        I wasn't particularly comparing it to anything in my collection.....

                        It is a nice SS Soldbuch to one of the most collected SS Divisions, no doubt will warrant a high price......

                        but as far as SS Soldb******252;cher go, it is to a low rank, he has no awards and on that basis how can it be "as good as you can get as far as soldbuch collecting goes"????

                        /Ian
                        Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                        Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                          #42
                          OK, I guess I meant it is a good as you can get without taking out a second mortgage to pay for a better one

                          to an average collector like me, this HJ Division, Normandy casualty book would be the peak.
                          Last edited by milcollector; 02-12-2007, 03:32 PM.

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                            #43
                            I like having Soldb******252;cher chock full of awards as much as the next guy, but what really captured my interest with this one is the fact that it's a Hitlerjugend Panzer Grenadier KIA in some of the fiercest fighting seen up to that point in the Normandy invasion (Caen). The documentation in Hurbert Meyer's book allowed me to identify the day, time and location of his death (which is quite hard to do with any KIA Soldbuch/Wehrpass) and the fact that he was a halftrack driver and that the lot included his F******252;hrerschein and Verpflichtungserkl******228;rung made it even more desirable – well, to me, anyway.

                            In today's market it's very, very hard to find an original and complete SS Soldbuch to a Normandy casualty. Sure, it would have been great to see a EKII or PAB in bronze award entry, but the documentation behind his unit and his death make this little gem one of the centerpieces of my SS Soldb******252;cher collection

                            Rob
                            Last edited by Rob Johnson; 02-12-2007, 03:45 PM.

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                              #44
                              congratulation to this superb part

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Ian Jewison View Post
                                I wasn't particularly comparing it to anything in my collection
                                That was meant to be a complement

                                Rob

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