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    #1

    Is my Iron Cross 1st Class L/15 real?

    So I heard about the L/15 fakes but I think this one could be real. Your thoughts?
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    It's real because it exists ( ) but it's a classic Floch 1980s/90s repro.

    Return it if you can.

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    Mike
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      #3
      That´s a Floch cross




      Andy

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        #4
        Firstly, Yeah... classic Floch 1980s/90s repro.

        Secondly, L15 ≠ L/15 (It's not the same thing)

        L15 = Friedrich Orth
        L/15 = Otto Schickle

        and This is a Back Side-style closer to Friedrich Orth...

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          #5
          Repro I'm afraid, hope you didn't give much for it mate

          Ross

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            #6
            Originally posted by HeinzGrimberg View Post
            Secondly, L15 ≠ L/15 (It's not the same thing)

            L15 = Friedrich Orth
            L/15 = Otto Schickle
            A few weeks ago I told a dealer about these L15 marked EK1 and KVK1 that L15 ≠ L/15 and that or it concerns a Friedrich Orth EK1 or worse a Floch fake. I even asked him if the KVK1 was L15 or L/15 as it cannot be seen on the picture.

            He is still selling them as a Schickle EK1 and KVK1 ... (and in the past I already had to return a few items after forum scrutiny), so I deleted him from my list of dealers.
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              #7
              EK1-1939 signed L15 is evidently made post-war, sorry

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              Jarek

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                #8
                Originally posted by HeinzGrimberg View Post
                Firstly, Yeah... classic Floch 1980s/90s repro.

                Secondly, L15 ≠ L/15 (It's not the same thing)

                L15 = Friedrich Orth
                L/15 = Otto Schickle

                and This is a Back Side-style closer to Friedrich Orth...
                L/15 is only Otto Schickle
                L/14 or 15 is Friedrich Orth
                No marking without / are ww2 made, that was stricly checked.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gew44 View Post
                  ... No marking without / are ww2 made, that was stricly checked.
                  Slight correction: Rudolf Wächtler & Lange stamped L 55 (w/o the "/") and it was maybe incorrect but legitimate.
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                    #10
                    A Floch copy type

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                      #11
                      The history of the whole "L15 vs L/15" saga has been laid out in several B&D Publications, starting with The Iron Cross 1. Class in 2010.
                      George

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gew44 View Post

                        L/15 is only Otto Schickle
                        L/14 or 15 is Friedrich Orth
                        Hi mate.

                        I already know it..

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by wrongplanet67 View Post
                          A few weeks ago I told a dealer about these L15 marked EK1 and KVK1 that L15 ≠ L/15 and that or it concerns a Friedrich Orth EK1 or worse a Floch fake. I even asked him if the KVK1 was L15 or L/15 as it cannot be seen on the picture.

                          He is still selling them as a Schickle EK1 and KVK1 ... (and in the past I already had to return a few items after forum scrutiny), so I deleted him from my list of dealers.





                          I looked investigate it...

                          These are from Hiscoll.
                          code: 48455, 45570.

                          Many sellers incorrectly name their maker. In addition, the description is simply copied and pasted. Sometimes so modifications are needed.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by HeinzGrimberg View Post
                            I looked investigate it...

                            These are from Hiscoll.
                            code: 48455, 45570.

                            Many sellers incorrectly name their maker. In addition, the description is simply copied and pasted. Sometimes so modifications are needed.
                            Correct!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dietrich Maerz View Post
                              Slight correction: Rudolf Wächtler & Lange stamped L 55 (w/o the "/") and it was maybe incorrect but legitimate.
                              Yes, correct.

                              I apologize for mistake

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