The Two S&L Dies for RK's

[Brian S]

After all the nasty crap I took from Dave and Tom on my cross, no fkg blip. Of course, Gordon right again.

[Dave Kane]

Brian, isn't your cross 'incused 800'?

Is it magnetic?

[tom hansen]

"After all the nasty crap I took from Dave and Tom on my cross, no fkg blip. Of course, Gordon right again."


Where am I giving you crap about your S&L cross? I have no idea which "B" types are pre -1945, or post 1945 unless they have a non-magnetic core, are flawed all to hell, and have an odd core. I have no dog in this S&L debate and do not have any idea how one can tell at what date "A" crosses stopped and "B" crosses began.
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[George Stimson]

The "blip" is raised? So it could be filed off?

[Dave Kane]

Brian, I looked at the pics in Williamson's book and I'm not convinced I don't see a 'blip' of sorts!!

Will you post a pic of the 9oc arm front and back? It would help us understand something of a time line that would include the 'incused' 800 stamp

Also, if not asking too much a nice close look at the 'dent row'...!

[Brian S]

I'm always getting incused of something around here.

[Brian S]

"filed away" Geez George, if they filed it away they were pretty consistent here's the obverse.

[Dave Kane]

Thanks...is it magnetic and may we see the 3oc arm just as close

[Brian S]

No, it has the little letters Elastolin on the core

[Brian S]

Yes, magnetic.

[Harry]

To add a note, the blip always appears in the exact same place on the crosses concerned, it is always raised and is the same size on the three different examples I have come accross.........

Brian, your cross definitely does not have it!

1. Iron core, 935-only marked flawless frames.

[Harry]

2. Non-ferrous core, flawless frames.

[Harry]

3. Non-ferrous core, unmarked heavily flawed frames......

[Dietrich Maerz]

After all the nasty crap I took from Dave and Tom on my cross, no fkg blip. Of course, Gordon right again.

Brian,

not having the blip on your cross is for sure a good sign because it puts it on a time line before the 935 which we all seem to agree to be postwar and in the same frame condition as the 935-4. The 800-4 also does not have the blip.

Now, I think it would be nice to start comparing the dent rows in regards to a possible time line, especially between 935-4, 800-4 and 800. Maybe one can see something there.

Could you please post the dent row and I will ask VIPER the same. I have pictures of his cross but the area is not clear enough.

And I caution again, nobody knows when the blip appeared - it could be pre-45 or post 45. To say not having the blip makes a cross pre-45 is completely unfounded at this point in time - and the opposite, i.e. to say post 45, would be foolish also, if your cross would have the blip. However, better not to have it! For sure!

Dietrich

[Dave Kane]

Brian, no 'blip' but this is what I picked up on!!! Incredibly, it's at the 6th ridge and in exactly the same spot as the 'blip'!


Regarding the 'dent row'...is your Cross well worn or is the row as dipicted so very flat?