Award Document for Knights Cross of the Iron Cross

[Peter Wiking]

Please discuss: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...527935661&rd=1

Cheers.
Peter

[Pascal H.]

Hope you saved the pictures because this item will be off in no time, with the swas showing.

KR
Pascal

[Blitz]

I have doupts. An Urkunde for a ss-sturmbanfuerer beginning with 1100 dollars? He obviously has doesn't take it seriously himself. There should be a picture of the "Frieda Thiersch" to make a positive id. From the very few urkunde I have seen and have pictures of, the gap between "Den", "4.september" and "1940" seems to be too wide, allthough I haven't seen enough of these to be sure.

Details of the eagle and various other aspects should be covered decently for someone to be able to make a reasonable assesment of this item valued over 10 000 if original.

[Peter Wiking]

Here is one more just in case...

Cheers.
Peter

[JRA]

SS-Ostuf

Vogt was SS-Ostuf when awarding the RK. Shouldn't that be on his formal award?

Jeroen

[Dave Kane]

And.....!

[JRA]

dot

Hi Dave,

what do you mean? The dot is normal in the formal document.

Jeroen

[Allan P.]

Didn't someone post details of a site that reproduces these Urkunde some time ago?

I remember they looked very good.

Allan

[Peter Wiking]

Didn't someone post details of a site that reproduces these Urkunde some time ago?

I remember they looked very good.

Allan

Here you go Allan: http://www.thirdreich.ca/museumcopie...ction=kcfolder

Cheers.
Peter

[JRA]

Copies

Hi Allen,

you mean: http://www.thirdreich.ca/museumcopie...ction=kcfolder .

But Vogt isn't among the copies: Erwin Rommel, Michael Wittmann, Sepp Dietrich, Adolf Galland, Hans Ulrich Rudel or Erich Topp are the only ones that they have. It can be that they have made a special copy for only 1 person. But the price would much higher than the normal 995 dollar.

Jeroen

[Pieter Verbruggen]

If they used original ink,...this will be the only original part of this document.

Pieter.

[Pieter Verbruggen]

I have doupts. An Urkunde for a ss-sturmbanfuerer beginning with 1100 dollars? He obviously has doesn't take it seriously himself. There should be a picture of the "Frieda Thiersch" to make a positive id. From the very few urkunde I have seen and have pictures of, the gap between "Den", "4.september" and "1940" seems to be too wide, allthough I haven't seen enough of these to be sure.

Details of the eagle and various other aspects should be covered decently for someone to be able to make a reasonable assesment of this item valued over 10 000 if original.

..at least 11000
Pieter.

[Bob Hritz]

Urkunde and mappe issued by SS-Einsatzgrupp Sheiss.


Bob Hritz

[Dietrich Maerz]

Hi Bob,

I'm sorry to correct you but it is "Einsatzgruppe Scheisse"

Dietrich

[Dave Kane]

Hi Dave,

what do you mean? The dot is normal in the formal document.

Jeroen

Jeroen, this looks like a 'period' or 'full stop'....

I'd prefer to see something a bit more associated with the type of instrument used to scribe the document and the 'art' of doing so!