Ww ii ek i spange, screw back clamshell

[gefreiterdreyer]

If anyone can provide any information about this screwback Spange I would be appreciative. The clam shell has fine detail and the Spange is marked "20" just below the anchor pin point. I don't find any exact examples but I think I have seen some a long time ago. Could it be a private purchase Spange by CF Zimmermann of Pforzheim?
Thank you for any opinions.

[gefreiterdreyer]

Ww ii ek i spange screw back clam shell

A couple more.

[gefreiterdreyer]

Ww ii ek i spange screw back clam shell

First round didn't take. Here are two.

[gefreiterdreyer]

Ww ii ek i spange screw back clam shell

Apologies, photos were right side up when loaded. Some quirk I am not aware.

[rbminis]

Sorry, as far as I know, Zimmermann never made any spange.
Ralph.

[Jean-Claude]

Sorry, as far as I know, Zimmermann never made any spange.
Ralph.

Never seen a Zimmerman spange either and none found in my archives but the (very caracteristic) details of your eagle make me think of a Juncker 2nd pattern spange that is mostly found un-marked so not sure why they had to push their luck and screw it up with a "20" maker's mark ...

A few years back I almost bought the same screwback spange (unmarked) with 1914 EK combo because the detail looked good and I've wanted a Juncker spange for ages but at $500.00 for the combo for an item that usually sells for $4/5K (the Juncker spange alone goes for 1.2/1.5K) I figured something was fishy

Best regards

JC

[Casper]

If real the MM fake or added to increase value.

Please post straight on close up photo of head and date box

[CMSgt]

spange

If real the MM fake or added to increase value.

Please post straight on close up photo of head and date box

Wrong mark to try an increase value, all marked spanges would have and LDO code. Jim

[sanya13]

IMO this the EK1 spange not good to me , maybe a Juncker want be. but not won .


although IMO the disc original to me .

[von_georg]

As far as I know, Zimmermann never made Spanges. The maker mark is false.

IMO the Spange is a fake, pretending to be a Juncker. Good quality fake in any case.

[gefreiterdreyer]

Ww ii ek i spange screw back clam shell

Thank you all for your response. Not good news. Casper, I will post requested photos soon.
Thanks again all,
Dave