Who received BOTH the PLM and the RK?

[sam steele]

Hello Gents,

Now that I am the happy custodian of a Godet PLM, I'm attempting to determine the contact marks on it. No doubt from contact with..........another neck order?

I've noticed various photos of Generalfeldmarschall Robert Ritter von Greim, and his PLM is sat upon by his RK. While I'm formulating my ideas as to the source of the contact marks, would members have data as to how many recipients of the RK, also wore the PLM? I'd love to know the "who" and "how many", please.

Cheers,

Bill

[DonC]

Rommel and Göring come to mind immediately. Von Bock, Kuno-Hans von Both, Ernst Busch, Siegfried Haenicke and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templa...ight%27s_Cross

Don

[Bilzo]

Hello Gents,

Now that I am the happy custodian of a Godet PLM, I'm attempting to determine the contact marks on it. No doubt from contact with..........another neck order?

I've noticed various photos of Generalfeldmarschall Robert Ritter von Greim, and his PLM is sat upon by his RK. While I'm formulating my ideas as to the source of the contact marks, would members have data as to how many recipients of the RK, also wore the PLM? I'd love to know the "who" and "how many", please.

Cheers,

Bill

Those contact marks are very distinct, easily identifiable in a photo IMO. Congratulations on that PLM.

[sam steele]

Thank you, Don and Bilzo.

Yes Don, I came across that site you supplied, just as your note came in. Out of those 17, five could be discounted as possible connections. And that's just for the RK. Then there's the KvK! One step at a time.

My PLM from blind pew is indeed a beauty. I was always only interested in "been there" medals, as compared to mint, unissued pieces.

Let the hunt begin.

Cheers,

Bill

[byterock]

anoter is

General Major Otto v.Lancelle.

At one time I had a list like that bookmarked or printed someplace will see if I can find it some place

[Dansson]

Ferdinand Schröner was another.

Have picture of your PlM?

[tystgaard]

Ernst Udet

Ernst Udet
Bruno Loerzer
Alfred Keller

A few more

[jmcm]

Could it be another neck medal?

[sam steele]

Thank you Gents,

I can't download blind pew's pics, so if you went to "PLM marked 935" in the sale section, you'll see the scans. When I receive the PLM in the next few days, I'll take my own pics.

Judging from the location of the contact marks, this PLM would have been worn under another order of a Cross shape. Judging from the bangs, he was certainly no desk jockey.....Most likely a field officer during WWII. That's my theory, thus far.

Cheers,

Bill

[Zepenthusiast]

One real benefit of a gilded silver piece is that you have a better chance of distinguishing between die wear (could have intact gilding) and "wear wear," with the gilding lost due to contact. If you can get a look with a microscope--friendly local eye doctor, perhaps, if you don't immediately have a scope at hand?--you may be able to spot micro-abrasions with circular pattern, too. Congrats on a very special acquisition--definitely jealous!

Jim

[praubal]

Wedding ring perhaps.....? Not quite as romantic...
Check for Libyan sand dust- grains in ribbon....you never know..

[sam steele]

Thank you Gents.

Jim, I bought a Lumagny 30 power lighted magnifier many years ago at a garage sale....and it's worth its weight in gold. I'll check for wear highlights on the gilt, and any distinctive patterns in the metal itself.

Praubal.........Funny that you should mention wedding rings, as I have my dad's (a WWII vet), and my grand-dad's (a WWI vet). I was briefly toying with the idea of bidding on Hermann Goring's wedding ring in the latest Thies auction.....but decided not to. This PLM came with no ribbon, but I'll be on the look-out for a nice period piece in the future.

Cheers,

Bill

[peter3181]

von Kircheim.

[Erickn]

Congrats on such a splendid PLM that displays definitive wear Perhaps the right photo exist out there somewhere to help pinpoint the original owner..... here is Blind Pew's image......I hope he does not mind. Best of luck!

[Brian S]

Congrats on such a splendid PLM that displays definitive wear

You can distinguish between "Definitive Wear" and mishandling by who knows who or when???