EK-1 L15 help!!!

[gelazius]

Hello! I need help!

[gelazius]

http://www.sammler.ru/uploads/monthl...1467447397.jpg

http://www.sammler.ru/uploads/monthl...1467447459.jpg

http://www.sammler.ru/uploads/monthl...1468851671.jpg

Is this Cross original or fake? Thank you.

[AndyC]

Hi

First I post your pictures here so that they don´t get lost.


Andy

[AndyC]

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And here is my postwar copy so that you can compare

[AndyC]

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[Eklipse]

AndyC is right.
In fact, any iron cros marked L15 (without the /) is postwar, commisioned by Mr. FLOCH. Early pieces are mounted with leftover original parts, later pieces are from new made parts.

[Dennis J]

AndyC is right.
In fact, any iron cros marked L15 (without the /) is postwar, commisioned by Mr. FLOCH. Early pieces are mounted with leftover original parts, later pieces are from new made parts.

Yes 100% FLOCH.....I have some of his early pieces from the early 60's.

Dennis J

[5tefan]

This ek1 is not a floch!

This is a Floch!
http://www.ek1-dna.de/fakes-part-1----kopien-teil-1.php

[Rich G]

AndyC is right.
In fact, any iron cros marked L15 (without the /) is postwar, commisioned by Mr. FLOCH. Early pieces are mounted with leftover original parts, later pieces are from new made parts.

Where is the proof that backs up that statement?

[Eklipse]

Mr. Johannes Floch recognized it to Dietrich/George.
And the physical evidence match it...early L15 marked crosses show a mixture of original leftover components (Orth, Souval ...) that soon are replaced by some new parts that are Floch made, and finally the Floch crosses are entirely made from new parts. The L15 mark is the same in all pieces (with late Floch products, you can find some other bogus maker marks).
The LDO licence for Otto Schickle (original maker with LDO number L/15) was revoked short time after they were issued with LDO number.
Fortunately, nowadays with this matter of L15 pieces everything is completely clear and explained.

[Eklipse]

This ek1 is not a floch!

This is a Floch!
http://www.ek1-dna.de/fakes-part-1----kopien-teil-1.php

Stefan, the ones you have in your page are indeed Floch crosses...but there are early examples made with original leftover parts and the very same bogus L15 mark.