Sedlatzek RKs?

[chrisje110]

Any pictures of the brochure ? Interested to see it !

[Alex W.]

A few months ago on the E-stand there was a sedlatzek brochure / catalog showing 57 medals and i believe bundeswehr orders along with medals with the swastika . the adress was berlin SW 68 friedrichstrasse 205 . Did anyone here buy it ?

Even though I didn't buy anything from the e-stand I do have a post-war catalog and a few early post-war listings from the Sedlatzek company featuring imperial replacement awards, post-war produced swastika pieces for remembrance, as well as foreign awards that were also awarded to german vets. The 57er part is IMO the most boring part about the catalog. Never the less, very interesting material - especially if interested in what was offered in the early post-war years.

[sdesember]

Sedlatzek seems to have another address. This time was in Kochel/Obb. (Oberbayern?). Attached below is from Feb. (?) 1958 Spiegel. After the source, I included the file name (pdf) which is searchable from the internet.

[Alex W.]

Sedlatzek seems to have another address. This time was in Kochel/Obb. (Oberbayern?). Attached below is from Feb. (?) 1958 Spiegel. After the source, I included the file name (pdf) which is searchable from the internet.

Yes indeed, Sedlazek's post war adress was in Kochel/Oberbayern.

[sdesember]

Yes indeed, Sedlazek's post war adress was in Kochel/Oberbayern.

Fantastic!

The missing info now to determine whether Sedlatzek (possibly somehow) continued at the Friedrichstrasse address after the war as the Central Berlijn was destroyed as Ludwig and Dietrich mentioned. (E.g., If someone had Werter Friedrich's birth date or the source of the congratulary article I attached in the previous page.)

[Leroy]

Alex is right. Dietrich mentions in his book that in 1945, Sedlatzek in Berlin was bombed out and he moved with his remaining stock to Kochel in Bavaria. The catalog cover shown by Alex says that the earlier address (probably also the one with the most prestige) was the Berlin SW68, but it is now Haus Lenz, Kochel.

This is interesting in other ways, as well. For many years, it was said that Juncker (also in Berlin SW68) was bombed out in 1944, but U.S. bombing records from the U.S. National Archives show that the bombing of that neighborhood actually occurred in February, 1945. This matches the year of Sedlatzek's move and also raises the question whether, if some of Sedlatzek's stock was salvaged, could Juncker have saved some of its, too?

[Dietrich Maerz]

1962

[sdesember]

This could be an earlier Preislist than the one that Dietrich's posted as the price on the attached list below shows a real silver RK to cost DM 32. From the file's name which I assumed from the original poster of this list, it says 1956. So, this and the fact of the lower price shown of the RK makes this list earlier. (Credit to whoever posted this photo)

[Leroy]

And here's one (also from Dietrich's book) of the 1963 list, followed by part of one from very late in the next decade (posted by Nigel in the 1957 forum) supposedly from Souval itself.

This stuff was really being pumped out. Early collectors remember this well.

[Leroy]

Here's part of a catalog I received in 1963 from Col. John Stoddard (the "Alte Oberst", in La Jolla, California). I've got the medals section somewhere here and will try to dig it out. Original Peekhaus CCC's in the original cellophane for $3.00, copy RK's with O&S "from an original wartime manufacturer" for $19.95. Every catalog a mix of real and copy items, all at prices which would make you cry today.

[Leroy]

Went back and checked Nigel's old thread. The Souval catalog is from January, 1986!

[chrisje110]

The prices back then where insane.. 3 bucks for a CCC

People with a bit of foresight could have done very very well back then.

[Alex W.]

Went back and checked Nigel's old thread. The Souval catalog is from January, 1986!

Hi Gentry,

the yellow catalog page is indeed from Souval directly. It's hard to make any price comparison with the 1986 listing, since it's right about the last one with only cheaply produced stuff still left. Pretty much the same poor quality stuff St&L sold as 57ers in the mid 1980s.
Never the less, I have the paper variant of this price list and can check for anything particular if interested. The earlier white paper catalogs of Souval. (60's & early 70's) are much more interesting, as they also include items that were not available anymore by 1986.

As I mentioned already, Sedlazek sold the entire Souval product line but also many St&L products.
All imperial replacement pieces he sold were St&L made.
All the "more exotic" foreign awards that were offered by Sedlazek in his listings - Azad Hinds - Slovakian Victory Crosses - the Mannerheim Cross - Romanian Michael the Brave decorations etc. were all produced by either Souval or St&L.
Souval by the way was an official supplier to the Romanian crown until the end of the war. So it's no surprise that he had all the dies to continue production of such rare and "exotic" decorations even in the early post war years.

[Leroy]

Alex - It would be very interesting to see the 60's catalogs from Souval if you have any you could post.

[sdesember]

Alex is right. Dietrich mentions in his book that in 1945, Sedlatzek in Berlin was bombed out and he moved with his remaining stock to Kochel in Bavaria. The catalog cover shown by Alex says that the earlier address (probably also the one with the most prestige) was the Berlin SW68, but it is now Haus Lenz, Kochel.

This is interesting in other ways, as well. For many years, it was said that Juncker (also in Berlin SW68) was bombed out in 1944, but U.S. bombing records from the U.S. National Archives show that the bombing of that neighborhood actually occurred in February, 1945. This matches the year of Sedlatzek's move and also raises the question whether, if some of Sedlatzek's stock was salvaged, could Juncker have saved some of its, too?

There must be some post-war assembled Ordenspangen that still bears the Sedlatzek's former Berlin address as they sometimes do if there were some supplies left after the bombing.