Sedlatzek RKs?

[HeinzGrimberg]

thus ignoring german law.

ha ha well, I understand.

[HeinzGrimberg]

but I think that confused,
As you know Austria into Germany to an Anschluss then separated law?
just a curiosity.

[HeinzGrimberg]

whatever, We say that "broken law" and We need more than discovery for Sedlatzek.

[Ludwig]

Agree! No L/26 marked K&Q KC have ever been found. That one is from a spectacular homepage presenting a lot of crap.

And if you think of it, the ring would throw a shadow (if the light comes from the "right" direction) that gives the impression of a "dipping ring". But not on a Schickle made cross, as the ring and frame are on the same level.

[LadislavS69]

Who is the Luftwaffe Hauptmann wearing the 3/4-Öse Ritterkreuz?

He is Volprecht Riedesel Frhr. zu Eisenbach.
Lado

[HeinzGrimberg]

That one is from a spectacular homepage presenting a lot of crap.

And if you think of it, the ring would throw a shadow (if the light comes from the "right" direction) that gives the impression of a "dipping ring".

Hi Ludwig,
Wie geht es ihnen?

ok ok, thanks for your response.

[Ludwig]

Hi Ludwig,
Wie geht es ihnen?

ok ok, thanks for your response.

Bitte Du sagen!

[Leroy]

The second cross is a K&Q. You can tell by the shape of the arms (lack of curvature) and the angle and lighting is just making the ring appear to dip into the frame.

K&Q and "Sedlatzek" (really, IMO, Souval) side by side.

[Leroy]

Line-up: Early postwar Souval - with filed ring, low swastika and "dipping 3" in '1939' date, has the "Sedaltzek" beading defect; K&Q; "Sedlatzek".

[Leroy]

Another, just for fun. (Some idiot "notched" the lower corners of the frame at 6-9 and 6-3, probably to mount for display.)

[tony james]

Good idea. The K&Q is certainly a possible "culprit" for such photos, as is also a Zimmermann, IMO, because the Zimmermann ring can give the optical illusion sometimes of dipping into the frame. Another possibility is any cross which was not properly finished in the factory to eliminate intrusion of the ring into the frame.

Maybe if you could replicate the distance and angel of the KC in the foto in post # 41 using. both a K&Q and a sedlatzek and photograph it it might be interesting to see the results. .

[Leroy]

Maybe if you could replicate the distance and angel of the KC in the foto in post # 41 using. both a K&Q and a sedlatzek and photograph it it might be interesting to see the results. .

I have tried for almost 2 hours to do just that and have taken dozens of digital photos, but simply cannot replicate the exact angles or lighting (and certainly not the
exact "finish" on the cross in the photo, as neither of the crosses I am using are, of course, in the exact same condition as the one in the photo - and that matters in terms of reflection, shadow, etc.).

Surely someone else here will have examples of both types and is a more talented photographer than me.

I will say, without prejudice to either type (and this was surprising to me): I could not get a single shot of the K&Q which made the ring appear to "dip" into the frame to the degree as appears in the photo.

[tony james]

Thanks for making the attempt to compare.interesting to hear about your results with the K&Q .

[Rich G]

I have tried for almost 2 hours to do just that and have taken dozens of digital photos, but simply cannot replicate the exact angles or lighting (and certainly not the
exact "finish" on the cross in the photo, as neither of the crosses I am using are, of course, in the exact same condition as the one in the photo - and that matters in terms of reflection, shadow, etc.).

Surely someone else here will have examples of both types and is a more talented photographer than me.

I will say, without prejudice to either type (and this was surprising to me): I could not get a single shot of the K&Q which made the ring appear to "dip" into the frame to the degree as appears in the photo.

I understand and I have tried too to replicate these rk photos using digital camera and even though I have no K&Q but one from the other maker I can't get mine to look like these hofmann photos either.

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[Ludwig]

Don't give up!