L/21 Grand Cross

[RobertE]

Hello,

I have not seen this form of fakers marking Grand Crosses, but present it to add to our collective knowledge. Looks like L/21 to me, but I'll bet this cross has never been near Godet's presses!

regards, Robert

[RobertE]

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[RobertE]

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[Viriathus]

It does not look good, I'm afraid...

[RobertE]

Thank you, I agree. I am posting it so we have another fraudulent marking scheme available as a reference resource.

regards, Robert

[byterock]

Bids the question,

Is it a 'Fake' when every one knows it is a 'reproduction'??


In this case I would say 'Fake' as it trying to deceive what it really is.

[Ludwig]

L/21 is not Godet.

[RobertE]

Bids the question,

Is it a 'Fake' when every one knows it is a 'reproduction'??


In this case I would say 'Fake' as it trying to deceive what it really is.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. This is a reproduction, or a fake, of a Grand Cross with incused makers marks, posted for anyone who runs into one in the future.

Looking through the forum examples, I did not see this marking convention so thought I'd post it for all to see - chances are, someone will run onto this type marking again.

regards, Robert

[Tony T-S]

How tall is the swaz? I'm looking at it on my phone and am wondering if it is a marked up Souval, but the photos aren't clear enough for me

[Tom B]

It's just a plain fake !

[RobertE]

I seem to have confused the issue, sorry.

I am not asking if it is a replica or original; I know it is a replica.

I could not find the L/21 incused markings on reproduction Grand Crosses on the forum, and posted the pictures so we have a good photo record of this particular breed of replica.

regards, Robert

[Ludwig]

Please try to take better photos of the L/21 and 800 markings.

[byterock]

I seem to have confused the issue, sorry.

I am not asking if it is a replica or original; I know it is a replica.

I could not find the L/21 incused markings on reproduction Grand Crosses on the forum, and posted the pictures so we have a good photo record of this particular breed of replica.

regards, Robert

The point I was trying (unsuccessfully i guess) is that every collector with even a little experience knows that 99999.999% of all Grand Crosses are not original. Hence the term 'reproduction' rather than 'fake'.

In this case as it is oddly marked perhaps it is trying to fool and thus a Fake

[Ludwig]

The point I was trying (unsuccessfully i guess) is that every collector with even a little experience knows that 99999.999% of all Grand Crosses are not original. Hence the term 'reproduction' rather than 'fake'.

In this case as it is oddly marked perhaps it is trying to fool and thus a Fake

Please explain the difference between a fake and a reproduction.

[Leroy]

Other companies made the GC for display purposes during the war. Are they fakes
or reproductions?