Opinions on 2 Spangen wanted

[peterwyndavies]

I would be grateful for opinions on these two Spangen. I attach some pics.
Thanks,
Peter.
Spangen 1

[peterwyndavies]

Another pic Spangen 1.

[peterwyndavies]

One more pic.

[peterwyndavies]

Spange 2

[peterwyndavies]

Another pic of this.

[peterwyndavies]

One more pic of Spange 2.

[Matthieu]

I would say no on both ....

[peterwyndavies]

Thanks Matthieu,
What is the main problem you see with them.
Thanks,
Peter

[stukapilot]

Both bad.

[peterwyndavies]

Thanks stukapilot,
As I am on a learning curve, could you elaborate on this?
Thanks,
Peter

[CMSgt]

fakes

Peter they both look like Floch fakes http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=147722&page=7. Jim

[Jean-Claude]

...As I am on a learning curve, could you elaborate on this?
Thanks, Peter

Hi Peter

I agree with the others. The second clasp is a well know floch fake discussed in the thread Jim mentions and the first clasp is a copy of this original one attribued (by some) to Schmidthaussler (Pforzheim) of which a front picture is enclosed for you to compare. The reverse hardware is also very different on an original.

Doing the same "identify the differences in the 2 pictures" excercise thas we used to do as kids in the "funnies section" of the saturday morning newspaper should make the differences obvious.

Regards

JC

[CMSgt]

spange

JC is correct about the first one, I started thinking late last night that I had been wrong saying a Floch about this one. If you compare the pictures JC posted you will see differences, plus the footing of the catch looks like what Souval used post-war on a lot of his medals. Jim

[peterwyndavies]

Thanks Jim and Jean-Claude,
Your pics are very helpful JC, as was your Floch link Jim. Thanks very much for your contributions. These are part of a collection of items being offered for sale, but many of them are now looking exceedingly dodgy.
Thanks,
Peter

[streptile]

The second clasp is a well know floch fake discussed in the thread Jim mentions and the first clasp is a copy of this original one attribued (by some) to Schmidthaussler (Pforzheim).

I fully agree.