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    Estand Fake EKII Ribbon

    I've PM'd the vendor with my opinion that the ribbon is a reproduction and sent him a link to show my reasoning but 5 hours later he hasn't changed the description.

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=812638

    Ian

    #2
    yes Ian IMO this the ribbon for me either like it

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      #3
      Yes fake for sure

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        #4
        And now it's on 'hold'

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          #5
          Ian, you can show the donkey the water, but you can't make it drink

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            #6
            Originally posted by Peter J. View Post
            Ian, you can show the donkey the water, but you can't make it drink
            Indeed Peter.

            Ian

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              #7
              No good!

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                #8
                Don has very kindly posted a link to this thread, let's hope the buyer sees it.

                Good work Don

                Ian

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                  #9
                  Good work Ian !

                  Douglas

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                    #10
                    Original orange to compare with .

                    Douglas
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                      #11
                      loops

                      Do the end loops on the black edge look bigger on the real one too ? The orange looks close for a rookie like me.

                      Thanks for sticking your neck out for the truth.

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                        #12
                        Yes . Close up of one .

                        Douglas
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jack944 View Post
                          Do the end loops on the black edge look bigger on the real one too ? The orange looks close for a rookie like me.

                          Thanks for sticking your neck out for the truth.
                          The horizontal 'weft' thread should be more pronounced as on these West Wall ribbons of mine ..



                          The reproduction has another weft thread that joins the ones we see above together ... this makes the edge look 'smoother' than on an original.

                          I can't express it better than Tom Yanacek did in this thread .. http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=luftschutz post #26

                          The majority of modern ribbons use an interlocking whip-stitch that reinforces the selvage by locking up the looped ends and therefore the modern ribbons will lack the open loops and scalloped edges that are so evident on original period ribbons. So, in most cases, it is easy to tell an original ribbon from a modern one.
                          Ian

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Peter J. View Post
                            Ian, you can show the donkey the water, but you can't make it drink
                            hello everybody.
                            this is the seller. just want to let know that the buyer is adviced about the ribbon is a repro. he will pay just for the cross or for a full set with an original (short) ribbon.

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