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    #16
    Originally posted by boch_62 View Post
    Maybe you're right, but the real dealer should have software, which after the first purchase, blocks the next bid. Yes or no?

    Otherwise, it's the possibility of fraud - Yes or no?

    And really there is nothing further to discuss, sorry

    Jarek
    Hi Jarek,

    this system "blocks the next bid" was @ Detlev Niemann. And I it was not possible to buy items, if someone bought it before!
    What should I say. I manage two times to buy inside 5 seconds the item, but always get the answer, sorry it is already sold!

    Later I got the information, that some of his best friends/ clients get a special preview and it was already fixed who will get the rare items.

    So Detlev Niemann had this system what you proposed, but at least it was also not fair and it took not long to recognize it.
    Last edited by 5tefan; 05-02-2015, 05:03 PM.

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      #17
      Originally posted by 5tefan View Post
      Hi Jarek,

      this system "blocks the next bid" was @ Detlev Niemann. And I it was not possible to buy items, if someone bought it before!
      What should I say. I manage two times to buy inside 5 seconds the item, but always get the answer, sorry it is already sold!

      Later I got the information, that some of his best friends/ clients get a special preview and it was already fixed who will get the rare items.

      So Detlev Niemann had this system what you proposed, but at least it was also not fair and it took not long to recognize it.
      ...but others dealers like Hiscoll or Phillip-Milltaria have this system and it works - nobody buys after 2-3 times the same cross ...

      Jarek

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        #18
        Jarek,

        You cannot compare the volume of new items at Hiscol with that of Weitze!

        It's much easier to answer a few dozen mails than literally hundreds.
        "Wir Deutschen fürchten Gott und sonst nichts auf der Welt " BISMARCK

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          #19
          That ís the first time I see a EK2 with makermark L/53..
          Are there other known examples?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Snni View Post
            That ís the first time I see a EK2 with makermark L/53..
            Are there other known examples?
            Hi,
            I do not know how the others, but I'm also the first time see such EK2 and signed L/53 ...

            Jarek
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              #21
              ... and I have doubts about the originality ...
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                #22
                Originally posted by boch_62 View Post
                ... and I have doubts about the originality ...
                Hello,
                at the pictures it makes a good impression to me but I have never seen such a cross befor too! Designsimilarities to a EK 1 made by Hymmen are clearly visible. I think you have to handle it to say something more about it. Why do you have doubts about the authentity of that shown piece?!
                BR René

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Massen View Post
                  Hello,
                  at the pictures it makes a good impression to me but I have never seen such a cross befor too! Designsimilarities to a EK 1 made by Hymmen are clearly visible. I think you have to handle it to say something more about it. Why do you have doubts about the authentity of that shown piece?!
                  BR René

                  ... just about that you wrote ...
                  besides I have seen already a little different crosses EK2-1939, and these original and those not original, because I have doubts, but only IMO.

                  Jarek

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                    #24
                    original cross, i have no red flag when i see it, sorry , i saw it only in your this thread, soooooo late,
                    i rather paying more money for this cross, honest and top rare!
                    and don't blame to Weitze, it is your fault.
                    you are late, and you don't know how Weitze works.
                    he is fair and i think the most stuff , i rate it at 98%, are nice and original, something in argument is ok, because he is the biggest dealer,
                    but this cross is from my experience: no copy!
                    Last edited by PanzerElite; 05-07-2015, 05:05 PM.

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                      #25
                      I'm not an EK collector, but I do collect Hymmen items ... this has some characteristics of the Hymmen EKI frame, and that looks like a typical L/53 mark ... could this really be the elusive Hymmen EKII? What's the consensus - is this legit?

                      Best,
                      Greg
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by rkdek View Post
                        Jarek,

                        You cannot compare the volume of new items at Hiscol with that of Weitze!

                        It's much easier to answer a few dozen mails than literally hundreds.
                        That's not really the case because the majority of Weitze's updates contain re-listed items which are for sale on their site for a longer time already.

                        And yes, I've also been in the situation already with items that I've ordered, got confirmation by e-mail, and than to find out 14 days later, after receiving regular mail with the invoice that some items have been sold to others. I think this system they use doesn't really work and in my opinion it's better if an item turns up as "on hold" or "sold" immediately. That, with on top their often far overpricing of items I decided to buy my stuff elsewhere. Plenty of other places to get nice stuff

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Greg View Post
                          I'm not an EK collector, but I do collect Hymmen items ... this has some characteristics of the Hymmen EKI frame, and that looks like a typical L/53 mark ... could this really be the elusive Hymmen EKII? What's the consensus - is this legit? Best, Greg
                          It's totally, 100% legit.
                          Best regards,
                          Streptile

                          Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by streptile View Post
                            It's totally, 100% legit.
                            Hi Trevor,

                            I have long looked on this cross, and compared it with Hymmen's crosses EK1.
                            I change my mind - and I agree, that the original Hymenn's cross EK2

                            Very rare and very unique !!!

                            Jarek

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by boch_62 View Post
                              Hi Trevor,

                              I have long looked on this cross, and compared it with Hymmen's crosses EK1.
                              I change my mind - and I agree, that the original Hymenn's cross EK2

                              Very rare and very unique !!!

                              Jarek

                              it seems so&

                              WR Kirill

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