KVK-1st no mm

[pdawg1911]

Hi,

Can anyone identify who the maker might be for this KVK-1st ?

Thanks,
Pat

[pdawg1911]

More.

[pdawg1911]

Another.

[pdawg1911]

Should I be asking if it is an original ?

Thanks,
Pat

[George Stimson]

Can you post a more detailed close-up of the obverse?

[pdawg1911]

George,

Here are some more I just took.

Thanks,
Pat

[pdawg1911]

Some more of the hardware.

[Douglas 5]

The cross has no side taper ... that for me makes it a post war piece .

Douglas

[Douglas 5]

After closer comparison it is a fake variant that shows up in different forms . The A-Symtrical arms are the big give away , even some Flock KvKs have this .

Douglas

[pdawg1911]

After closer comparison it is a fake variant that shows up in different forms . The A-Symtrical arms are the big give away , even some Flock KvKs have this .

Douglas

Douglas,

Are you saying that the arms are always the same length ? The reason I ponder this is that there are crosses on the pinned thread that don't have the same length either. Here is the thread I referring to:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=475124

Also, here is a typical example picture from the thread that illustrates the arms are not the same length.

Thanks,
Pat

[Douglas 5]

No Pat ... the arms are the same length . It is about the symmetry of the arms .
Besides that it has matching hilt features - handle ribs and mushroom caps - and the same flat pebbling as this Floch .

Douglas

[BMB]

Hi!
To me it looks like a zinc original cross Manufactured by S&L.

Have a great day!

Best regards
Martin

[George Stimson]

I agree that it's an S&L. Whether is was made during or after the war, I can't say.

[pdawg1911]

No Pat ... the arms are the same length . It is about the symmetry of the arms .
Besides that it has matching hilt features - handle ribs and mushroom caps - and the same flat pebbling as this Floch .

Douglas

You had previous wrote that "this side is longer than this side". I was just pointing out that there are other KVK-1st that are in the database that have different length sides.

Thanks,
Pat

[George Stimson]

"I was just pointing out that there are other KVK-1st that are in the database that have different length sides."

S&L's KVK1 without swords, for instance.