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**PanzerElite** · 07-15-2014, 09:10 PM

so which parts you are feeling reworked?
I didn't see them.

**Stormfighter** · 07-15-2014, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by PanzerElite View Post

so which parts you are feeling reworked?
I didn't see them.

Perhaps it's just a well-worn cross that has been cleaned after the war? The reverse has scratches, suggesting it has been cleaned in some way.

**SNOOPY** · 07-16-2014, 07:46 AM

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Not seeing anything that was "reworked".
Looks like a nice cross.

**1933 FORD NUT** · 08-02-2014, 05:16 PM

Second opinions please Godet DKIG

Hello , I bought this and have some questions about it . The inner area of the red ring at 9:00 looks messed with - GLUED ?!!? . Anyway you can see it in pics and there seems to be some residue of the glue on the wreath ? Almost looks like a little melted red from the ring . How is the wreath attached ? The black enamel has a very thin red line around it before the silver of the swaz frame ?!!? . Maybe this is normal but I don't see it in any pics . Actually can't see it in my pics either but it is definitely there and very uniform . Same color as the red ring under the wreath . Also the lines above and below the date seem a little weak ? I ordered Dietrics book but it is not here yet . Is this really a good one ? Kinda wondering . Thanks Dave

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**daniel tarr817j** · 08-02-2014, 05:32 PM

I have no idea as to how the red ring is held in place nor do I know the material it is but I do see a problem. Look at the swaz corner in the 12 o'clock position, something appears wrong there. I also notice that the width of the red ring is not consistant as it moves around the inner diameter. The red ring appears damaged. Just the thoughts of a retired machine shop inspector. d_t

**1933 FORD NUT** · 08-02-2014, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by daniel tarr817j View Post

I have no idea as to how the red ring is held in place nor do I know the material it is but I do see a problem. Look at the swaz corner in the 12 o'clock position, something appears wrong there. I also notice that the width of the red ring is not consistant as it moves around the inner diameter. The red ring appears damaged. Just the thoughts of a retired machine shop inspector. d_t

Thanks for the reply Daniel , The 12:00 arm looks the same as the rest . The swaz isn't perfectly centered so the arm is a little tighter there but is not touching . The red ring inconsistencies seem to be on others also . The 12:00 swaz arm does have a slight dimple in the enamel from manufacturing as it has no damage there . I struggle with a camera but I will try if more needed . Thanks Dave

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**1933 FORD NUT** · 08-02-2014, 06:53 PM

Couple more pics of the 12:00 arm .

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**PanzerElite** · 08-02-2014, 08:02 PM

its nice cross, don't worry.

**daniel tarr817j** · 08-02-2014, 08:48 PM

Dave; The added photos do not show what I saw in the previous pics. I am surprized at the difference. Thanks! d_t

**SNOOPY** · 08-02-2014, 11:36 PM

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The wreath is held in place by 2 of the 6 rivets.
From looking at the back, the rivets look untouched.
I don't see how the wreath could have been removed and glued on without messing
with those rivets.
It could have been clean with some substance making it look odd.
I still say it's untouched.

**Ron Weinand** · 08-03-2014, 12:19 AM

What is the weight?

**1933 FORD NUT** · 08-03-2014, 07:24 AM

Thanks a bunch guys . I am a Luger guy mostly and had been reluctant to buy things like this . Since I found this site I have been buying stuff like this to go with the Lugers . incredible WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE HERE AND thanks again !!!!!!!!!! The wreath is not glued on - under 30x the spot at 9:00 is not glue - something got on the red a little and scared the begezziz outta yours truly . Heck you can buy a half decent Common Mauser Luger for what this cost !!! Not a Krieghoff of course but that is a different bird there . I don't have a really good scale but it seems to be just a tic over 70 grams ?!!? Now I probably need a well worn Knights cross if anyone has one for sale . Again thanks for all the help Dave

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