EK2 Klein & Quenzer, is found so far pieces

[Euronymous]

Douglas, can you bring proofs ?

[boch_62]

Hi Sanya,

That's not the "A" core. Only this one has it:

I agree with Trevor.

For comparison, a different picture of the core type 1 (A) - I believe that this is an early core K&Q.

Regards
Jarek

[Douglas 5]

Proofs to what - Euronymous ?

[Euronymous]

Some proofs that K&Q did not make post war crosses Douglas.

[Douglas 5]

I had not heared of any and quickly scanned through the 57 forum as well to see if K&Q EKs are mentioned - which are not .

Douglas

[Euronymous]

Please give me the link of the 57 forum page.

[Douglas 5]

They show about 3 or 4 makers only :

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...52#post5225752

Douglas

[Euronymous]

These crosses are from the 57 model. I was speaking about post war crosses with swastika. Klein & Quenzer could kept on making crosses after the war. My question is: How can we know it ?

[Eryk]

Very interesting topic.
Please help in determining the nature of the cores in the crosses.
Looking from the top:

1. - type 1
2 - type 1
3 - type 3
4 - type 2
5 - type ?
6 - type 2
7 - type 1

Best regards
Maciej

[Euronymous]

It's interesting to note K&Q used at least 5 cores but only one frame. They changed core but not the frame ... I would like to know the reason.

[Eryk]

better photos

[Douglas 5]

Euronymous - K&Q making crosses post war with 39 cores ? - Well possible but they would use their own existing components first for EK1s and 2s .
These crosses would look like war time pieces . What they actually did - no one knows .
As you may have noticed with 57 EK1s - material and hard ware changes started taking place early on for those companies that official and un-officially continued making EKs .
I will get to your other question in a moment .

Douglas

[Douglas 5]

Thanks for those pictures Maciej . # 2 is a bit different from the others ... is it marked ?
Went over your list ... 6 was a bit tricky ... you had them correct to the most part . Some core dies are more worn than others .

Douglas

[Eryk]

Thank you very much for your help. Cross No. 2 is unsigned.
Crosses are signed: 3, 4, 6.

Best regards
Maciej

[Douglas 5]

Euronymous : A logical question with this maker and all the cores they used . .. how many frames did they use ? At a quick look it may seam to be one frame .
Frame dies like every thing else eventually wear out or break .
As we know from other manufacturers that a 'working or production die' is produced from a design master .
The differences between working dies are very small differences and mostly noticeable on the corners . So far I have found 4 frame productions dies .
These are pictured below .

Douglas