Dietrich Award RK Documents

[chen]

Another shot of the same cap .

[Jelle M.]

Some outstanding items posted. Owning these documents would be a dream for every collector.

[Tony T-S]

If that hat is original, it will change the way hats are evaluated in the future. I may be very wrong, but I don't like it and would love to see the accession paperwork.

Leroy that was my feeling, but I don't know enough about them to make a judgement. The eagle worries me.

[Tom B]

If that hat is original, it will change the way hats are evaluated in the future. I may be very wrong, but I don't like it and would love to see the accession paperwork.

IMO it's 100% original to him. It's been around for several years & I know it had good provenance with it.

[chrisje110]

Some great eye candy in here

[Ludwig]

Very interesting thread! Many thanks for posting those very interesting pictures!
(terrible ugly cap, by the way! )

[Dietrich Maerz]

If that hat is original, it will change the way hats are evaluated in the future. I may be very wrong, but I don't like it and would love to see the accession paperwork.

When I was at Westpoint I asked the curator to show me the other Knights Crosses they have. He brought out a board on which were mounted a Knights Cross, a Knights Cross with Oaks, and a Knights Cross with Swords. All three were fakes and we did not even scan or photograph the board, it was too bad.
We were told that sometimes the items were given out to school classes for demonstrations and that it could very well be that in the earlier days items were switched.
Could have happened with the hat also?

[Ludwig]

Could have happened with the hat also?

Most likely, IMO. Can´t imagine that hat being worn by a General...

[Leroy]

When I was at Westpoint I asked the curator to show me the other Knights Crosses they have. He brought out a board on which were mounted a Knights Cross, a Knights Cross with Oaks, and a Knights Cross with Swords. All three were fakes and we did not even scan or photograph the board, it was too bad.
We were told that sometimes the items were given out to school classes for demonstrations and that it could very well be that in the earlier days items were switched.

They've been the same since at least 1985, when Bowen photographed them, so any "switch" must have occurred before then. The top one (w/OS) is a Souval cross, while the lower ones appear to be S&L's. Would have been nice to photograph them in detail and in color, and see the accession cards, but certainly that could still be done if anyone is in the area and could call West Point in advance.

P.S. The ribbons appear to have white edging and are not the typical type used by S&L in the 50's-60's.

[sanya13]

I do not understand these things and I can not decide whether to be good
to you but I like what I see

[Eric the Wiking]

Most likely, IMO. Can´t imagine that hat being worn by a General...

Maybe there are some period pix from Sepp Dietrich wearing this hat. Should be easy to determinate such a "special" hat...

KR Eric

[JAYP]

I Believe they also have Dietrich's Fur Lined Overcoat.I have seen that hat many times and never thought it was real.Jay Parisi

[Dave_B]

Look at post #1 in this thread.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ietrich&page=2

[djpool]

Look at post #1 in this thread.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ietrich&page=2

Eagle looks familiar.

[Leroy]

Maybe, maybe......I'd be glad to be mistaken, as it would once again show that 'textbook' doesn't always hold true.