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**Wolf100** · 04-20-2013, 05:42 AM

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**streptile** · 04-20-2013, 11:11 AM

Both are fakes, sorry.

**Wolf100** · 04-20-2013, 02:44 PM

Why? I'm a ring guy, so i don't have a clue about awards. Please educate me a little bit. I have a Detlev Niemann COA. Was he wrong ? I can not upload pics :-(

**Gew44** · 04-20-2013, 02:59 PM

Both fake, for material and design.

Also the Niemann COA are reproduced.

Sorry

Ciao

**streptile** · 04-20-2013, 03:14 PM

Hi Wolf,

Well, Detlev wasn't too often wrong. My apologies -- I may have spoken too soon. Please show better pics, including the reverse, to confirm whether it's a Schickle or a Raptor, the EK2 an S&L or another one. We really need big, detailed photos.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Here is an authentic Schickle and an authentic S&L, the two types yours may or may not be.

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**streptile** · 04-20-2013, 03:46 PM

...and here are the fakes I suspected yours are.

Raptor
Un-named ugly fake.

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**Wolf100** · 04-21-2013, 03:25 AM

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**streptile** · 04-21-2013, 07:55 AM

Hi Wolf,

As I wrote you by email, the EK1 Spange is a good one, and the EK2 Spange is a fake.

My apologies for my hasty judgment about the EK1 Spange; the Raptor fake is so close to this type that from the undetailed photos it's very easy to mix them up.

Did Niemann write a COA for the 2. Class as well?

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