Genuine L/12 Oaks at auction house

[Dietrich Maerz]

The IMHO only genuine "L/12 900" Oakleaves are up for auction in Germany. This is the set from Adolf Dickfeld and this one could be proven fairly solid as being worn during the war by an awardee.
It is astonishing how many "variations of "L/12" Oakleaves and Swords were and are around: "L 12", "800 L 12", "800 L/12". Niemann showed four (!) differemt ones in his price guide - but he missed the real one!

[nick-j]

Do you have any thoughts as to the reason they used a different grade of silver for the oaks than they used for their Kc?

[Dietrich Maerz]

Not really, other than the "900" is a kind of traditional gem grade in Germany (but so is "800", too).
But it is interesting that the Godet made (official) oakl;eaves and the (so far) only genuine Juncker are both stamped "900" (and not "800" or "835"). But it might not mean anything at all and I am not aware of any prescribed silver content.

Dietrich

[Michael Everett]

Excellent

Hallo Dietrich,

Great thread and follow-up to your article.

I think you would agree that up until your research, Junker "Oaks" were not really valued as much as the Godet "Oaks". As you wrote in your article, given the short period in which Junker could have produced the "Oaks" and the restrictions put in place by the LDO, are the Junker Oaks now more desriable and rarer than the Godet "Oaks"?

Thank you,

MIKE

[Dietrich Maerz]

I don't think they will reach the level of the Godets. The important thing, however, is the proof that there were some at least and that they are "L/12 900" (and not all the other variations). Price is always something between seller and buyer.
This set at thecauction ranges in thevsame area as a Godet set IMHO - the provenance is impeccable!

Dietrich

[Michael Everett]

Oaks

Hallo Dietrich,

Thank you for your response.

I would tend to agree with you that they will most likely never reach the same "level" as Godet Oak's however, you would think that a nice Junker RK with an attached set of Junker Oaks (L/12 to L/12) would be quite the set and complete a very advanced Junker RK collection!

Will keep my eye out for any "L/12 900" Junker Oaks.

MIKE

[Dietrich Maerz]

Hi Mike,

there are out there! Here are some pictures I got several weeks ago!

Dietrich

[Bob Hritz]

Those I would love!

Bob Hritz

[streptile]

Any better shot of the L/12 mark Dietrich?

[Dietrich Maerz]

This is the best I have right now.

[streptile]

Thank you.

[Michael Everett]

Mint

Dietrich,

Wow. I'm with Bob, would love to have that specimen with my mint L/12 Junker RK. I am of the opinion that Junker had a much better finish than Godet.

Mike

[Leroy]

In the 3 volume set "Die Eichenlaubträger " (featuring, almost solely, color photos of Oakleaves recipients), there is a great photo of Joachim Müncheberg clearly wearing a set of Juncker Oakleaves. To me, these should rank right up there with Godet pieces.

[Michael Everett]

Oaks

Gents,

The Junker L/12 900 Oaks are either real or not: to me it is quite that simple. If they are real, they should command a much higher price than the Godet pieces based on their rarity. Based on what we have learned recently form Dietrich, it seems to me that they are without question real. Would anyone like to challenge my conclusion?

Mike

[Rich G]

I hope the next big discovery will be a genuine set of L/16 marked oakleaves.

Rich