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    #1

    Juncker combo

    and 'on hold' for someone

    http://www.craiggottlieb.com/engine/...rman+Militaria

    but rest assured 'Steve Preitera' has confirmed it authentic
    and Craig Gottlieb even adds:
    "Rare to find, as most of the examples on the market are collector assembled"

    regards
    jon
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    #2
    Originally posted by tinmantis View Post
    and 'on hold' for someone

    http://www.craiggottlieb.com/engine/...rman+Militaria

    but rest assured 'Steve Preitera' has confirmed it authentic
    and Craig Gottlieb even adds:
    "Rare to find, as most of the examples on the market are collector assembled"

    regards
    jon
    as is this one, most likely...
    The wear on cross and clasp are a tad bit different...

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      #3
      That stuff is always interesting to see, but I wouldn't want that one in my collection, personally.

      The cross is a good and typical AWS with their 925 silver stamp, certainly private purchase and probably from the 20s. The eagle over the seam? It doesn't look right to me. And the pin on the back is not from the cross, originally. It's from some other cross, and has been added (sideways) to the combo. Who knows? Might be period. But I wouldn't pay much more than the total value of the parts for this particular piece. Work looks sort of sloppy and there are parts from at least 4 different pieces on there. All I know is that there is no way that is a factory Juncker-assembled combo (to Craig's credit, he does not claim it is).

      Also, what's with the random pic of a (Deumer?) screwback combo at the end?
      Best regards,
      Streptile

      Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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        #4
        Originally posted by streptile View Post
        But I wouldn't pay much more than the total value of the parts for this particular piece.
        By the way, I just noticed the price on this Combo. It is not any more than the price of the two components together. Well done Craig . (In fact the price is a few hundred bucks less than you would pay for the two pieces separately)
        Best regards,
        Streptile

        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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          #5
          I didn't see the price, what was it?
          regards
          jon

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            #6
            Price

            $2295

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              #7
              Last photo

              Originally posted by streptile View Post
              That stuff is always interesting to see, but I wouldn't want that one in my collection, personally.

              The cross is a good and typical AWS with their 925 silver stamp, certainly private purchase and probably from the 20s. The eagle over the seam? It doesn't look right to me. And the pin on the back is not from the cross, originally. It's from some other cross, and has been added (sideways) to the combo. Who knows? Might be period. But I wouldn't pay much more than the total value of the parts for this particular piece. Work looks sort of sloppy and there are parts from at least 4 different pieces on there. All I know is that there is no way that is a factory Juncker-assembled combo (to Craig's credit, he does not claim it is).

              Also, what's with the random pic of a (Deumer?) screwback combo at the end?
              Caught that last photo too.

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                #8
                Not for my collection. -Ger

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ekhunter View Post
                  Caught that last photo too.

                  Craig is also selling a cased screwback combo and obviously the reverse photo from that set has ended up in the wrong place.

                  Plenty of great and authentic pieces on that site but someone who knows Craig should probably point out to him that his item #4488 (currently 'on hold') needs some 'attention'.
                  Last edited by Biro; 06-19-2012, 05:04 AM.

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                    #10
                    strange price for the juncker don't you think? if that monstrous masterpiece really was wartime, I'd expect that to bring over 5K, even without provenance

                    yes, the other combo he has for sale is a cased deumer screwback...
                    http://www.craiggottlieb.com/engine/...rman+Militaria
                    but
                    I've never seen one like that. Actually I've never seen a deumer SB combo at all
                    from the front they look seperate, but the reverse shows a full joined rear plate
                    I'm not sure about the cross being a deumer either, strange one again. I'd love to have it in hand, case too. A first for me
                    as with all combos: a total minefield
                    regards
                    jon

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                      #11
                      Neither have I.
                      The clasp ain't Deumeer either.
                      I posted one of these a while ago for comments :

                      They put some effort in it though, they cut a new back-plate and put the combo together.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
                        The clasp ain't Deumeer either.
                        Is it an S&L, or a fake?

                        Hard to say anything about the EK too from the photos provided.
                        Best regards,
                        Streptile

                        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                          #13
                          Well, at the time I posted another example of this clasp, it was deemed fake.

                          Haven't seen may of these clasps so far, but well, it got the thumbs down...

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                            #14
                            For reference. The Juncker combo. Definitely two authentic pieces:
                            Attached Files
                            Best regards,
                            Streptile

                            Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by tinmantis View Post
                              strange price for the juncker don't you think? if that monstrous masterpiece really was wartime, I'd expect that to bring over 5K, even without provenance.
                              Yeah, I agree. However, the description gives no indication anyone knows it's a Juncker.

                              I know I would pay $5K+ for a bonfide wartime Juncker Combo -- but such a treasure would have to be be different in a few key areas from this one

                              That said, this is a Combo of two authentic, valuable and beautiful (in my opinion, the most beautiful) pieces. If you believe these two pieces were joined wartime, it is a steal.
                              Best regards,
                              Streptile

                              Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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