Spanish cross

[Del Panfini]

Here are some pics of a Spanish cross in bronze with swords. I would like your opinions. Thanks, DEL

[Del Panfini]

Spanish cross

Another pic

[Yuri D.]

I don't like the eagles, nor the pattern of pebbling on the cross arms.

Yuri

[Del Panfini]

Spanish cross

Yuri, I was leaning toward it being original. Is this a known repro by this maker? Thanks, DEL

[Yuri D.]

I can't answer if it's a know B&NL repro, but the eagles are too fat looking, which is a reproduction characteristic for these awards. Also notice the "grid-like" pebbling on the cross arms, you never find this on known originals. I think it's a reproduction.

Yuri

[Del Panfini]

Spanish cross

Thanks Yuri for your replies. Does anyone else have any opinions before I send it back. Thanks, DEL

[François SAEZ]

Some people think that B&NL didn't produce SC

Could you have a close up on the MM, could you post the measurements, weight, please

[stogieman]

I would add...

... that I have not seen one of these with such poor eagle detail and large, lumpy stippling to the fields of the arms, that was made prior to 1945.

[John T]

the reverse assembly is similar to what you see on real examples, but I do not know if this maker made these pieces or not.

[stogieman]

I agree....

... with respects to the pin/hinge & catch. Very, very close to what I would expect to see on an authentic piece... But the details of the front seem to be sorely lacking. I also second François... many doubt that BN&L made this piece war-time... I'd have to say the jury's still open to debate on that issue, but I would not feel comfortable owning or selling this particular cross.

[jacques]

Hi

The Spanish cross BN&L marking was already debated . few years ago I owned such a cross in gold. It had the same front and back details. I believed it was original until a knowledgeable dealer told me it was not good. I can't proove it's a copie or if BN&L actually made these crosses, but I saw the same crosses with other MM, and that bother me !
this MM was presented as a copie in a german magazine few years ago.In the doubt, I prefer avoid this MM crosses.
jacques

[Del Panfini]

Spanish Cross

I will have to take the weight tomorrow, my batteries are dead in my scale but the measurements from outside the arms vertically and horizontally are the same, 55 1/2 mm. I am posting a pic of the maker mark. Thanks, DEL

[Airborne Nut]

I would like to start off by saying that I am not an expert in these SC's but in the very first picture before I even saw the first comment my immediate reaction was that the Eagles were very fat. I then read down and confirmed that I was not the only one with this belief.

Right off the bat not 1 second after seeing the eagles my observation of the eagles was starring me in the face. I have never seen posted on this forum or others of know originals eagles looking that fat. But as I said I am not an expert and my opinion is just that an opinion, take it for what it is worth. With these "Big Ticket" items (as I am a poor man) I tend to stick with known originals as I cannot afford to purchase a contraversial piece. Ok now have at me for the know originals comment.

-Shane