I guess one could consider the logic as being that if it is a de-oaked '57 and being passed off as a de-nazified pre-'45 cross, it is worth at least $1000 more!
It is already up to about $728, at least double what an early '57 goes for.
Not a bad profit for a couple of hours work!
It could also be a de-oakleaved early 57. Although again, one would question the logic of ruining a decent 57 piece.
Originally posted by Erich
Erich
Hi Erich/Dave/Jon,
I considered this too, but I think that I can see traces of the "square " where the swaztika could have been, there doesnt appear to be damage to the upper arm, and the inner corners appear to be filed as one often sees on a 1939 fit up.
On balance I'll still stick to a 1939 denazified theory...but then the pictures (and my eyes too) are not that good !
Chris, yes, my first observation was wow, I'd like to get something like this but after Erich suggested the possibility of a 57' I began to look at the #'s a little closer. The loop in the 3 seems awfully high, the back of the 9 too straight and the elongated foot of the 1 nonexistant!
Again, bad pics or possibly a mirage caused by paint but the 1 and 9 'touching' at their bases does not help...
Darn, it could be 100% (and if so a great 'timeline' to assess the "flaw's beginning") or an out and out fraud!
Chris, yes, my first observation was wow, I'd like to get something like this but after Erich suggested the possibility of a 57' I began to look at the #'s a little closer. The loop in the 3 seems awfully high, the back of the 9 too straight and the elongated foot of the 1 nonexistant!
Again, bad pics or possibly a mirage caused by paint but the 1 and 9 'touching' at their bases does not help...
Darn, it could be 100% (and if so a great 'timeline' to assess the "flaw's beginning") or an out and out fraud!
The more I look the more I doubt...
Dave
Yep....its an interesting piece isnt it Dave....and thanks for the links Peter.
Question now is, is this a blank centre or a denazified 1939 ?
(Wish we had some better shots of this one)
I cannot see any trace of the oak leaf stem on the bottom arm, yet the damage to the core where the swastika should be is larger than you would think if the swaz was removed.<O</O
Some swastikas were hollow as the centre of the cross was sometimes stamped out of a sheet of thin metal. I once owned an L/11 marked cross with this feature and it was considerably lighter in weight as well.
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