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best regards
jon
best regards
jon
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It could also be a de-oakleaved early 57. Although again, one would question the logic of ruining a decent 57 piece.
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Erich, you might be on to something!
I've looked, squinted etc. and (now) I really don't see the characteristics I look for in the pre '45 "1939"!!
It might be the paint/re-paint causing it.....but now I'm just not sure.
Will someone post a (very) early '57 cross so we might compare the 1939.
Specifically, I don't care for the 1 nor the 3.
Someone elses turn to go blind!!
DaveRegards,
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I guess one could consider the logic as being that if it is a de-oaked '57 and being passed off as a de-nazified pre-'45 cross, it is worth at least $1000 more!
It is already up to about $728, at least double what an early '57 goes for.
Not a bad profit for a couple of hours work!
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Is my one ok to compare with ?Originally posted by Dave KaneErich, you might be on to something!
I've looked, squinted etc. and (now) I really don't see the characteristics I look for in the pre '45 "1939"!!
It might be the paint/re-paint causing it.....but now I'm just not sure.
Will someone post a (very) early '57 cross so we might compare the 1939.
Specifically, I don't care for the 1 nor the 3.
Someone elses turn to go blind!!
Dave
Cheers.
Peter WikingComment
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WOriginally posted by Peter Wiking
W!
here's a few comparisons. I noticed that the inner corners of the 'denazified' one are slightly filed (for the swaz?)
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Hi Erich/Dave/Jon,Originally posted by Erich
I considered this too, but I think that I can see traces of the "square " where the swaztika could have been, there doesnt appear to be damage to the upper arm, and the inner corners appear to be filed as one often sees on a 1939 fit up.
On balance I'll still stick to a 1939 denazified theory...but then the pictures (and my eyes too) are not that good !Last edited by Chris Jenkins; 06-07-2004, 07:43 PM.
Chris
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Ok guys. I spend some time searching and found this interesting info:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=1957
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=1957
Cheers.
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Chris, yes, my first observation was wow, I'd like to get something like this but after Erich suggested the possibility of a 57' I began to look at the #'s a little closer. The loop in the 3 seems awfully high, the back of the 9 too straight and the elongated foot of the 1 nonexistant!
Again, bad pics or possibly a mirage caused by paint but the 1 and 9 'touching' at their bases does not help...
Darn, it could be 100% (and if so a great 'timeline' to assess the "flaw's beginning") or an out and out fraud!
The more I look the more I doubt...
DaveRegards,
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Yep....its an interesting piece isnt it Dave....and thanks for the links Peter.Originally posted by Dave Kane
Question now is, is this a blank centre or a denazified 1939 ?
(Wish we had some better shots of this one)
Chris
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Also, the description suggests that it was 'de-nazified' while the owner a POW. A bit unlikely...
However, it is surely attractive to some! Have a look at the bids...
DaveRegards,
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I cannot see any trace of the oak leaf stem on the bottom arm, yet the damage to the core where the swastika should be is larger than you would think if the swaz was removed.<O
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Hi,
Please info required were all swastika's solid or were some hollow stampings.
Still leaning MurdockComment
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Dear leaning Merdock,
Some swastikas were hollow as the centre of the cross was sometimes stamped out of a sheet of thin metal. I once owned an L/11 marked cross with this feature and it was considerably lighter in weight as well.
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