EKI BH Mayer?

[VonPeter]

Ok, i got some higher resolution pics now and as you can see its a new pin system on the cross.
Im guessing that the seller has mixed up the pictures of two different crosses.

Based on the new pictures, would you say it is a Mayer cross after all?

[VonPeter]

Close ups

[streptile]

Close ups

Oh well...

No, it's still no Mayer, and that pin system looks more like a Schickle-style system to me (catch, etc). Although the cross is no Schickle either!

To be honest I don't know what it is.

Maybe Ben or StefanK have seen this type?

[streptile]

Wait a second.

I think this is the "333" fake frame.

Anyone else agree?

I would steer clear of this cross. It matches no known originals anyway.

[VonPeter]

I dident know that ek1 also hade 333 fakes.
Even bigger pics:

[streptile]

I think you should definitely pass.

[VonPeter]

Yes, i will pass on it unless it gets a 100% here. I think im gonna play it safe and wait for a textbook example instead.
But it would still be interesting to identify this cross, fake or not.

/peter

[streptile]

It's a "333" type fake EK1.

As far as I know these flaws exist only on this new-ish and dangerous generation of fakes. So I don't think you will ever get a more definitive ID.

333 fake frame:

[VonPeter]

Thats good enough for me.
Thanks for your help Trevor and also to the rest of you guys that has posted here. It really turned out to be an interesting thread.

/peter

[Douglas 5]

Wow ... another 333 . What a difference the better last pictures made !!!

Douglas

[normandie]

Is this a new kind of fakes? its my cross and i know the previous owner who have had the cross for over 25years

best
Fredrik

[streptile]

Hi Fredrik,

I guess if your friend has had this for over 25 years, it's not as new as we thought.

I would still be happy to hear from Daniel, Ben and Stefan about this cross.

[5tefan]

Hi ;-)

VonPeter ask for help.
Let me see, if I can answer your question ;-)

[VonPeter]

Thanks for joining the thread Stefan. And might i say, a very nice presentation.
So the core is acually a Mayer but what about the strange flaws in the frame? Is there any concern there?

/peter

[5tefan]

Thanks for joining the thread Stefan. And might i say, a very nice presentation.
So the core is acually a Mayer but what about the strange flaws in the frame? Is there any concern there?

/peter

Maybe Trevor can show us the complete obverse of the 333 fake for compare.