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    My two new Juncker DKiG

    I wanted to show you my two new Jucker DKiG. The first one is a very early piece and was awarded on 24th of December 1941. It has some damage to the enamel, but that gives the cross a very nice character.
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    the second one is a later piece, and is much lighter than the cross first shown. It was discussed some days before and i promised to show pictures of it.

    greetings,
    Stefan
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      #3
      Two nice crosses



      Andy

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        #4
        nice Juncker crosses

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          #5
          The earliest Type I wreath German Cross by Juncker I have documented is November 29, 1941. The weight should be around 52 gr.
          I wish I could find an attributed 7 rivet type ...
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            #6
            Hi Dietrich,

            when i read your comment about the weight i had to check my cross since it felt much heavier in my hand than 52gr. And indeed the early weights 67gramms! It was either awarded on 24th of December 1941 or 23rd of August 1942. I still have to check that but i think the first date is the right one.

            The other cross weights 46,7 gr.

            What do you guys think when the second cross was made? Beginning of 1943?

            many greetings,
            Stefan

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              #7
              You are right - I was looking in the wrong column. Should be around 63-66 gr.

              The second one is the far more common Type 2 and was made before the introduction of the PKZ number, around end 42/spring 43.
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                #8
                Congrats Stefan, nice crosses indeed

                Nick

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                  #9
                  How ugly the Juncker made DKiG! IMO
                  And juncker bad DK processings made the enamel easy to be broken and different weight for each. My minty Juncker is weighted near 62g, not close to a focusing weight. For example the light zimmermann is around 45g.
                  Original the 1st one, but still reserve my personal opinion on the 2nd one .

                  Canny

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by StefanK. View Post
                    Hi Dietrich,

                    when i read your comment about the weight i had to check my cross since it felt much heavier in my hand than 52gr. And indeed the early weights 67gramms! It was either awarded on 24th of December 1941 or 23rd of August 1942. I still have to check that but i think the first date is the right one.

                    The other cross weights 46,7 gr.

                    What do you guys think when the second cross was made? Beginning of 1943?

                    many greetings,
                    Stefan

                    Hi Stefan,

                    i could be confident to say that your first Juncker was produced circa during
                    1941.10 -1942.2 (maybe in Jan.), very short period!!!

                    and then Juncker changed the wreath (9 notches against 13 notches) and the backing (mirror backing looks like the very early 10 and 6 rivets Deschler short pin against coarse backing).

                    Please note: Juncker changed the wreath and backing, so it stopped producing the first one. not like the heavy Godet and Deschler produced their heavy version throughout the war.

                    Your first Juncker is very rare, which must be considered more rarer then 6 rivets short pin by Deschler!! My friend, a DK fan, says he has 25-30 examples 6 rivets short pin by Deschler in datebase, but only 6 examples of this type by Juncker besides yours.

                    So keep the first one! It is very very rare!! and no dispute!!
                    Your cross is original and looks very nice but the bad enamel as we always see.

                    The second one:
                    IMO the most light version DKiG, for example, Deschler, Godet...appeared in1943.


                    I hope my opinion is helpful to you.

                    Regards and happy new year
                    Jason

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                      #11
                      worn but nice originals!
                      Congratulations Stefan!
                      Mark

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