A friend offered this EK1 and Spange to me. I would like to know if it is original and roughly what the value could be.
Thanks, Doug
Thanks, Doug
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This is an Unknown Maker Spange with an L/ mark.
The mark on the reverse of the Spange will be major news. Can you please let us know what it is?
As for the Combo, it looks all right to me but that is a subjective judgment. It is a "jeweler Combo" -- an original EK1 and an original Spange, joined together by a jeweler. As such it's hard to say exactly when it was joined, but this one looks to me like it could have been a period (pre-45) job.
As for value, these are a real grey area. The value of the pieces themselves would be about $800. Anything above that amount is dependent on how much faith you have in this piece as a period job. Combos that buyers had faith in fetched between $2500 and $4500 at the recent SOS.Best regards,
Streptile
Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)Comment
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perfectly crafted reply by Streptile as ever
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I think the spange is a repro
better/clearer pics would be needed to be sure, it looks too thick, too soft
regards
jonComment
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Hmm. That would suck...
Well, let's wait for better pics.
In fact, the mark could help us determine if it's bad, since if it is (for example) L/18 or L/15, we'd know something was likely wrong with it.Best regards,
Streptile
Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)Comment
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I would say repro also...the Spange that is.
Strange details and poor refinished. Just look at this picture here:
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Hi, my first post ! Not really that knowledgeable but I hope I can contribute a little something occasionally ...
Cant post picts (nor would I feel confortable to do so if I could because the pict was "borrowed" from a dealer site) but I have a pict in my files that shows a very similar combo set-up: same EK I spange design, similar reinforcement plate but long pin that covers both spange & EK. The back picture with lifted pin shows L/13 mark on spange reverse and 800 silver grade mark on EK which I found to be a rather odd combination... I have the same spange in my small collection but its unmarked
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The maker mark on the Spange is hard to read, but it looks like L/11???
DougComment
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L/11 is LDO No. for W. Deumer of Ludenscheid and spange design is very different .
I cant post picts but if you do a search on "Deumer EK 1 spange" you should see threads with good pictures of the Deumer spange design
JCComment
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to me, it doesnt matter what is marked onto this spange, it seems to be a repro anyway. This design is the one Unknown Maker of spangen, thus the name: UnknownMaker.
Repros of this design are good, this resembles the repro. A hands-on inspection would tell me straight away. Here is a pic of an authentic UnknownMaker spange:
regards
jonComment
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I'd like to see the picsOriginally posted by Jean-Claude View Post
L/13 and 800EK1 is possible, as a 'jeweller conversion'... but there are good new L/13 spangen fakes going around. I have one, and I have seen 2 combos recently also using the fake L/13, so buyer beware!
regards
jonComment
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Jon, I've never seen such a shiny beauty of this maker
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I agree, its a stunnerOriginally posted by Lubo View PostJon, I've never seen such a shiny beauty of this maker
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Hi Jon,Originally posted by tinmantis View Post
Your "unknown maker" spange is superbe! Same design as mine ...but with that minty "frosted silver" as an added bonus
As mentioned I cant post picts but if you are interested I can email you copy of combo picts (as a powerpoint presentation) I was talking about if you provide an address I can ship them to
Regards
JCComment
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