Unmarked 1939 EK1 Maker Opinions Please?

[monty]

Can someone help with the maker of this un-marked 1939 EK1 Please?

Many thanks!

[Douglas 5]

Hi Monty :
Looking at it the way it is ..... is a puzzle !!
There are a few of these around from time to time with the frame or core rotated !! You have a W&L EK1 with what looks like a very worn S&L core .

Douglas

[ben bijker]

Not a wartime original IMO.

This cross has the same core then a large number of L/16 SB and PB that appeared on the market a few years ago

Look at the unevenness of the swas, and the weird , shallow date....

[grueni1208]

Core = fake
Frame = original W&L

Regards

Daniel

[fabri-online]

"Interesting" mix, W&L frame and back setup + fake core.

[grueni1208]

Maybe re-nazified ;-)

[fabri-online]

Maybe re-nazified ;-)

why this thought ? jouke or serious ? this core is well known as fake just seen many times in fake EKIIs.

[grueni1208]

Maybe it's a problem to get original cores.

Regards

Daniel

[Douglas 5]

Can Monty show a side picture of the cross or tell us if it has been taken apart ?

Douglas

[monty]

re EK1

Thanks for all the help! I do not own it but have been offered it. I have no other photos but I will pass on it by the sounds!

[Douglas 5]

To help with this W&L core I did up an interesting comparison . There is a fat Swastika S&L core version one does not see that often . At first the W&L core reminded me of this one one until I put it side by side . Night and day ... a bad attempt to copy the center one !
That is why the question ... if one can see if the frame has been opened ?? The edge halfs from what one can see - seam to match , ... which possibly only means the person put the top frame back on wrong again befor trimming the edges again ??

Douglas

[fabri-online]

I have just seen personally Core (or front side) of left cross, on EKIIs marked 333. Swastica is not just fat, it has irregular dimensions of arms.
I 'll look for old pics to show them.

[streptile]

Not a wartime original IMO.

I agree

You can find many EK2s with this fake core for sale these days.

[Douglas 5]

That left core is irregular and does not match as the comparison shows . The W&L frame had to been opened to get that core inside . Whoever did it picked the worst core there is .

Douglas