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    Unmarked 1939 EK1 Maker Opinions Please?

    Can someone help with the maker of this un-marked 1939 EK1 Please?

    Many thanks!
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    Hi Monty :
    Looking at it the way it is ..... is a puzzle !!
    There are a few of these around from time to time with the frame or core rotated !! You have a W&L EK1 with what looks like a very worn S&L core .

    Douglas
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      #3
      Not a wartime original IMO.

      This cross has the same core then a large number of L/16 SB and PB that appeared on the market a few years ago

      Look at the unevenness of the swas, and the weird , shallow date....

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        #4
        Core = fake
        Frame = original W&L

        Regards

        Daniel
        Regards
        Daniel


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          #5
          "Interesting" mix, W&L frame and back setup + fake core.

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            #6
            Maybe re-nazified ;-)
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              #7
              Originally posted by grueni1208 View Post
              Maybe re-nazified ;-)
              why this thought ? jouke or serious ? this core is well known as fake just seen many times in fake EKIIs.

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                #8
                Maybe it's a problem to get original cores.

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                Daniel
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                  #9
                  Can Monty show a side picture of the cross or tell us if it has been taken apart ?

                  Douglas

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                    #10
                    re EK1

                    Thanks for all the help! I do not own it but have been offered it. I have no other photos but I will pass on it by the sounds!

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                      #11
                      To help with this W&L core I did up an interesting comparison . There is a fat Swastika S&L core version one does not see that often . At first the W&L core reminded me of this one one until I put it side by side . Night and day ... a bad attempt to copy the center one !
                      That is why the question ... if one can see if the frame has been opened ?? The edge halfs from what one can see - seam to match , ... which possibly only means the person put the top frame back on wrong again befor trimming the edges again ??

                      Douglas
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                        #12
                        I have just seen personally Core (or front side) of left cross, on EKIIs marked 333. Swastica is not just fat, it has irregular dimensions of arms.
                        I 'll look for old pics to show them.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
                          Not a wartime original IMO.
                          I agree

                          You can find many EK2s with this fake core for sale these days.
                          Best regards,
                          Streptile

                          Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                            #14
                            That left core is irregular and does not match as the comparison shows . The W&L frame had to been opened to get that core inside . Whoever did it picked the worst core there is .

                            Douglas

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