Cross in Gold - which is more common?

[willow]

Hi

I am looking at two examples of the German Cross in Gold. One is marked 134 while the other is marked 20 and is a cross by Zimmermann. Both crosses are obviously the lighter type

Can someone advise which is the more common of the two makers?

I probably will purchase one of the crosses, however, am undecided which one.

I did spend quite a bit of time researching the Internet and pouring over the books I own and to my knowledge the cross marked 134 is the more uncommon, but I may bot be correct in this.

For interest, the cross marked 134 is in slightly less good condition (the silver is very tarnished) than the Zimmermann which is almost grade 1

THANK YOU. Best, Iain (aka WilloW)

[javi_e]

the "20" is more common than 134, if you are looking for more uncommon cross gor for the 134 , if you are looking for a better condition go for the 20, is you choice

[willow]

Thanks for your comments. I'll probably swing for the 134. I like the service wear and the fact that from my research and your comments the 134 is the more uncommon cross of the two. Thank you, WilloW

[javi_e]

do you have pics from them?

[willow]

Unfortunately I don;t have any images at the moment. I have seen detailed pictures, however, they are on the person's secure website (password protected). I'll see if I can get some and post

[Flemming]

If I were you, I would post some pictures, before buying any of these two crosses. Just to be sure that they are OK.

Best regards
Flemming

[dc9]

Iain,

As you conduct your examination of the two pieces, you should find that they look practically identical, as it is, I believe, commonly accepted that Zimmermann (20) sourced parts to Otto Klein (134). This includes the existence of typical die flaws in the date and the starburst (often called the 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock flaw). A search on some of these terms in the Forum should help you with your examination. There is also a great book out there, The German Cross, by Dietrich Maerz that is a must have, if you are going to be investing in DKs.

I look forward to seeing some pictures!

Eric