EK2 K&Q with packet...

[Bagel]

Just looking to get some opinions... what's an Eisernes Kreuz 2.Klasse made by Klein & Quenzer A.G. / Oberslein worth these daze if it's in near-mint condition and comes with the accompanying near-mint packet?

This is assuming it looks like it's in basically unissued condition with no folds/wear to the ribbon, etc. I've seen these selling for $250 on dealer sites, which is obviously on the high side, but I'm open to hearing about other dealer/retail, wholesale/collector-to-collector prices or whatever. Thanks in advance for your opinions.

[Woolgar]

Hi Bagel

Probably around $100 less than what you have seen them sell for !

Nick

[streptile]

I would say $200 or €140 is a fair asking price for any Packeted EK2 as long as it's not in very rough shape, or very common. As K&Q is perhaps the most common maker, maybe $175 or €125. But then again, many people love "mint."

[Bagel]

EK2 packets and ribbon

I have this EK2 that has a really ratty piece of ribbon attached to it... can anyone tell who the maker is from these mediocre pics? I can take better ones if necessary...

[Bagel]

pic #1

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[Bagel]

pic #2

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[Bagel]

question

The main reason I'm asking is because I'm considering getting new ribbon and a packet for it... I want to know if:

A) It's worth spending extra money to improve this EK2
B) If the packet I'm considering would be "appropriate" for this maker

[Bagel]

packet and ribbon

This is the set I am considering purchasing...

[streptile]

Not sure of the maker of your EK2, but I would most definitely not "upgrade" the ribbon -- the ribbon it has might have been with it since the war. Also that Packet is a fake.

[Tom B]

Not sure of the maker of your EK2, but I would most definitely not "upgrade" the ribbon -- the ribbon it has might have been with it since the war. Also that Packet is a fake.

yes, the packet is no good ! keep your ribbon

[Bagel]

thank you!

Thank you for the input, I definitely hear what you're saying - I'm all for keeping sets together, especially if they're attributed items...

... but for something like a random EK2, wouldn't it add more value to get it a mint condition piece of ribbon and a mint packet? I guess I could consider getting a packet and skip the new ribbon...

... only problem is I don't know how to figure out which type of packet is appropriate...

[Hank C.]

Thank you for the input, I definitely hear what you're saying - I'm all for keeping sets together, especially if they're attributed items...

... but for something like a random EK2, wouldn't it add more value to get it a mint condition piece of ribbon and a mint packet? I guess I could consider getting a packet and skip the new ribbon...

... only problem is I don't know how to figure out which type of packet is appropriate...

Why would you get a mint ribbon & packet for a not mint cross. The cross/ribbon combo you posted is fine, the way it is (as others have stated).

best
Hank

[Tom Yanacek]

Leave it be!

Hello,

As it stands, the ribbon and cross both show their age and have character. There is no need to change a thing. I really like the look of that ribbon: it has great coloration and screams original. As others have mentioned, that packet you are contemplating is definitely bogus. And, since the packet is bad, there is a good chance that the ribbon that comes with it is a modern reproduction as well. So by looking to increase the value of that Iron Cross, you will actually be devaluing it.

Best regards,
Tom

[Bagel]

Duly noted, I sit corrected. Thank you all for the honest feedback - I won't change a thing.