Intermediate spangen maker

[AlikN]

I think I found the maker of so called Intermediate spangen first class, I was browsing on one of the Russian forums and found some pictures of 1940 Petz & Lorenz catalog, unfortunately this is the largest picture I have, maybe someone has the same catalog and can provide with bigger and sharper image, but even from this picture looks to me there are a lot of similarities between clasp in the catalog and Intermediate spangen, ...so what do you think guys, ....Intermediate = Petz & Lorenz?

[streptile]

I think, yes. Well done.

[AlikN]

Here is something else interesting to note that the hardware on those spangens looks very similar.
... I wonder what is the connection, ... same supplier?

[tinmantis]

interesting info
sure looks like the 'intermediate' spange, but what's that 2nd class spange?

are all these pieces pictured definately P+L stuff? or were they a supplier of other makers too?

I think there's little info about P+L, but what I've seen their stuff is pretty nuts
sure seems believeable
regards
jon

[streptile]

what's that 2nd class spange?

Looks like L/18 to me.

[AlikN]

Looks like L/18 to me.

It has some similarities to L/18, but I see a couple differences, shape of the wings by the head and the angle of the ribbon on the wreath.


...Petz & Lorenz were in business for a short time that would explain rarity of 'intermediate' spangen.


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[AlikN]

Here are some other pictures of that P&L 1940 catalog from Russian forum http://ak-group.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=695

[AlikN]

Logo

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[AlikN]

Spanish cross design for sure P&L .

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[AlikN]

.....Notice the small suspension ring, - not the accepted one with a ridge.

[tinmantis]

that EK2spange looks strangely like the floch repro!
regards
jon

[AlikN]

that EK2spange looks strangely like the floch repro!
regards
jon

...Jon, can you post the closeup of the one you mean?