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    Iron cross 1st class, without mark

    Hello! Please help me to identify the manufacturer of this unmarked one! It can be either a Zimmermann, or a Grossmann. Someone said that it's a Deumer. So, I'm confused.


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    Last edited by Oszeres; 01-26-2010, 09:38 AM.
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    Originally posted by Oszeres View Post
    Hello! Please help me to identify the manufacturer of this unmarked one! It can be either a Zimmermann, or a Grossmann. Someone said that it's a Deumer. So, I'm confused.




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      #3
      Originally posted by Ischak View Post
      no photos here
      OK. I've supplemented.
      Last edited by Oszeres; 01-26-2010, 09:41 AM.

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        Early Deumer?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Jon-Olav Holden View Post
          Early Deumer?
          Yes, early Deumer. Someone call them Grossmanns because some of them are stamped with 11 on back instead of L/11 but why it is not clear at the moment.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Jon-Olav Holden View Post
            Early Deumer?
            Yes, an early Deumer.

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              #7
              Dear experts! Many thanks for the identification! Best regards Zoltan

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                #8
                I believe, personally, that these crosses unmarked ought to be called Deumers, and that that the same crosses marked '11' are very possibly Grossmanns. However, as Fabrizio says, it's not clear what the truth is at the moment. The reasons I think they could be Grossmanns are well articulated in THIS THREAD over at the GCA forum.
                Best regards,
                Streptile

                Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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